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    I've been mulling over in my mind the cost vs plinking fun of the .22lr.

    It's no secret the .22lr is a ton of fun for very little money. This last trip out to the range we were a bit disappointed in our Ruger 22/45. We had more FTFires than we had the patience for and ended up leaving 20rds in order to not have to deal with clearing the gun.

    When the Ruger gets dirty it seems to get finicky. The pin strikes the cartridge, with what looks to be a solid strike, yet no fire. Then the ejector(?) misses the rim and fails to extract the round.

    So, the fun of that gun is gone, for now anyway until we can figure out why its been misbehaving lately. Gun or ammo?



    And with that, I've been pondering a 22 Conversion kit for the Commander. I think that'd be much fun sticking with the 1911 platform but shooting .22lr. I guess my concern is in light of the troublde shooting 22s with the Ruger, I wonder if the quality of the .22lr is poor that I'll have the same depressing experience with a conversion kit as with the Ruger. Or if it is the gun needing new parts after all these years.

    I realize I'm probably projecting any trouble. I'd just hate to buy a conversion kit and be disappointed with it. Of course, they do sell pretty quick so getting any money back wouldn't be difficult.
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    Texas1911

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    Ammo, .22 LR is widely known to be finicky for proper ignition. If you have a good crush on the rim then it's just the ammo. We have to deal with it alot at the range with our rental 22/45.
     

    M. Sage

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    Might not be closing all the way. I know it's hard to get all the residue off the extractor notch in a lot of .22 barrels. Gunscrubber works wonders.
     

    Gopher

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    Next gun show you go to buy a dental pick to clean the slot the ejector slides into. As it gets dirty it might not be going far enough to catch the rim to eject the case. Another issue is not enough force to cycle the action. My old MKI will cycle almost anything but some newer guns need rounds like CCI Mini Mags or Stingers to function correctly until well broken in. The 500 round bulk packs are spotty at best for uniformity and ignition.
     

    juwaba98

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    I use CCI Minimags exclusively for my .22lr pistol shooting. I feed the bulk packs to my rifles only. I'm not sure why, but I have more patience for ammo issues with the rifles than the pistols. Most likely the only issue you are experiencing is ammo related and can be solved by either paying more for premium ammo (CCI runs about $6/100) or simply learning to live with it. The QC with .22lr is just not there in the bulk packs. Some are seemingly better than others but it usually is a crap shoot from box to box even within the same brand.
     

    Shorts

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    I bet a good cleaning would do the ol' 22/45 some good. It doesn't get detail stripped often as its kind of a puzzle I haven't learned yet


    This range trip we were shooting 50rd boxes of Remington SubSonic...$3.17/50rds.

    I expect the 500rd brick to act out, never had a box that didn't. But I hoped the 50rd went better.

    I suppose we'll have to switch to some Gucci .22
     

    kingofwylietx

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    I have had great luck with federal .22LR. I have a conversion for my AR and they only recommend Federal. I have heard that other brands may have issues with the conversion. I have not tested that rumor, I just bought the Federal's and went to shooting.

    The first thing I would do is give the gun a good cleaning, lube it, and try again with different ammo.

    You can get dental picks at Super Target & Walmart. They are great for getting behind the extractor. I use a small pocket knife.
     

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    Hi Shorts--I'll bet the main problem was the SubSonics. The just don't have quite enough power to make an auto cycle. The Aguila subsonics will cycle my old High Standards O.K., but the conversion on the Rock Island, forgitaboutit. Not enough power to cock the hammer on a 1911 frame.
     

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    22's need cleaning more often in my opinion then center fire. My son's
    22/45 was malfunctioning until I did a total cleaning and used a liberal
    amount of FP10, now she chatters like an Ak47.
    Note, some autos do like the subsonic ammo.
     

    WB5MHA

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    22's need cleaning more often in my opinion then center fire. My son's
    22/45 was malfunctioning until I did a total cleaning and used a liberal
    amount of FP10, now she chatters like an Ak47.
    Note, some autos do like the subsonic ammo.

    +1, Somewhere the myth started that you clean a 22 by firing another round. After fifty plus years shooting I know better. Use quality ammo, keep it clean and your problems will go away. 22s are filthy and don't work right when improperly cleaned and lightly lubed.
     

    M. Sage

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    I bet a good cleaning would do the ol' 22/45 some good. It doesn't get detail stripped often as its kind of a puzzle I haven't learned yet

    While you're trying to figure it out, just get some Gunscrubber and spray into the action. I've got no complaints with the job it does, you just have to find a way to get oil back in where it needs to be.

    22's need cleaning more often in my opinion then center fire. My son's
    22/45 was malfunctioning until I did a total cleaning and used a liberal
    amount of FP10, now she chatters like an Ak47.
    Note, some autos do like the subsonic ammo.

    .22s are definitely dirtier. It doesn't help that .22 autos are blowback, which is just direct impingement with a 0" gas tube. You're throwing the dirtiest gases right back into the chamber. Rimfire isn't the most efficient ignition system, either and I don't think that .22 gets the highest quality powder.
     
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