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  • robocop10mm

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    Alex Jones. Is that you? Good to hear from you.

    Seriously. 1st post and you want to stir the pot already? Not that I am a BO fan by any means but seriously? This is first and formost a gun forum that happens to have a political section not the other way around.
     

    Shorts

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    "We won! We won before we even arrived," she said with excitement. "It means that the military has nothing to show for Obama. It means that the military has directly responded by saying Obama is illegitimate – and they cannot fight it. Therefore, they are revoking the order!"


    She continued, "They just said, 'Order revoked.' No explanation. No reasons – just revoked."
    If my attorney sounded like a high school head cheerleader I wouldn't feel very secure in the plan. :rolleyes: I'm sure this is not the last thing this guy's chain of command has planned for him. I'm not a JAG but seems to me this guy is in for a world of hurt.


    While its an interesting case, I'm not certain I like what this guy is doing. Abandoning his brothers and sisters in a time of war seems cowardly to me. Waiting for deployment orders to make the case is underhanded.

    I didn't vote for Mr Obama but you don't hang your unit/squadron out to dry.
     

    SiscoKid

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    Saw this earlier on another board. I too am skeptical, not due to the exuberant lawyer, but because I have always said that it don't make no never mind.

    They could find that Obamy was born on the moon and it wouldn't matter to the illiterate voters. And if this comes to fruition, it will be too late, democrats would probably pass a bill to overide it anyway.

    Lastly, yes the soldier should do his duty, support his brothers in arms, and let the lawyers do the legal mumbo jumbo.
     

    cuate

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    If true, the Officer lucked out temporarily but you can bet your hat and a$$ the Govt. will have a hunk of his in one manner or another. Somebody higher up. the Pentagon will never allow him to beat the system. It would start a landslide of military that don't accept that kenyan as their CIC or President.

    I don't either but my military was over 50 years ago....Semper Fi
     

    TSU45

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    If true, the Officer lucked out temporarily but you can bet your hat and a$$ the Govt. will have a hunk of his in one manner or another. Somebody higher up. the Pentagon will never allow him to beat the system. It would start a landslide of military that don't accept that kenyan as their CIC or President.

    Orders revoked cause he's about to get the martial maybe?
     

    M. Sage

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    It's more dog and pony show...

    If my attorney sounded like a high school head cheerleader I wouldn't feel very secure in the plan. :rolleyes: I'm sure this is not the last thing this guy's chain of command has planned for him. I'm not a JAG but seems to me this guy is in for a world of hurt.


    While its an interesting case, I'm not certain I like what this guy is doing. Abandoning his brothers and sisters in a time of war seems cowardly to me. Waiting for deployment orders to make the case is underhanded.

    I didn't vote for Mr Obama but you don't hang your unit/squadron out to dry.

    Nah, his COC probably just has a quiet discharge planned. They've been doing that with almost everybody like this lately. I even heard of a deserter (during the Bush years) who left his unit while deployed and made his way to Canada where he claimed political asylum. He was gathering anti-war supporters in Canada and the US to fight against extradition etc. because the war was "illegal" and all that.

    Turns out the Army knew he'd deserted and the circumstances surrounding it and didn't care. They'd simply given him a discharge and let him be on his merry way. This was pretty heart-breaking for him, as all of his sycophants suddenly didn't care about him any more, and since Canada said "Asylum? From what, exactly? Go home, kid."

    I love this part:

    "I had absolutely no idea that I had been discharged," said Glass when ABC News informed him of his status. "This is insane. This is so weird. There are no warrants? No one is looking for me?"
    He's heart-broken that he can't be a martyr for the cause. Me thinks they'll simply play the same card with this guy.

    I think the military has gone this route for a long time, now. I knew a guy during the Gulf War who was a reservist. When his unit deployed, he claimed that he was unfit due to a bad back and got a medical. He should have got in deep crap for lying like that; I mean his bad back didn't keep him from participating up until that point. The military just said "Ok, we don't care" and dropped him like a bad habit.

    The only thing that was wrong with his back was the yellow stripe running down it.
     

    DirtyD

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    Right now the military as a whole is so overstrength it is ridiculous. Unless you fit a VERY specific mold in the State of Texas, there is no spot for you in the Army National Guard. Many people dont realize that the overall strength (total number of people) of the military is regulated by law. Come October 1st, if a certain number are not discharged then some people with stars on their collars stand to lose their jobs. A result of this is that those seen as "trouble makers" are readily being shown the door. I was just told that as a production recruiter, I essentially have the next three months or so "off". Not this means anything, there will still be training to conduct, babies to shake and hands to kiss, but hey, I am getting paid.
     

    Shorts

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    That's a heckuva move but it makes sense for sure. And it diffuses the entire argument.


    Why have this guy on the payroll, health, & dental on taxpayers dime when they can just drop him and be free?




    It's more dog and pony show...



    Nah, his COC probably just has a quiet discharge planned. They've been doing that with almost everybody like this lately. I even heard of a deserter (during the Bush years) who left his unit while deployed and made his way to Canada where he claimed political asylum. He was gathering anti-war supporters in Canada and the US to fight against extradition etc. because the war was "illegal" and all that.

    Turns out the Army knew he'd deserted and the circumstances surrounding it and didn't care. They'd simply given him a discharge and let him be on his merry way. This was pretty heart-breaking for him, as all of his sycophants suddenly didn't care about him any more, and since Canada said "Asylum? From what, exactly? Go home, kid."

    I love this part:

    He's heart-broken that he can't be a martyr for the cause. Me thinks they'll simply play the same card with this guy.

    I think the military has gone this route for a long time, now. I knew a guy during the Gulf War who was a reservist. When his unit deployed, he claimed that he was unfit due to a bad back and got a medical. He should have got in deep crap for lying like that; I mean his bad back didn't keep him from participating up until that point. The military just said "Ok, we don't care" and dropped him like a bad habit.

    The only thing that was wrong with his back was the yellow stripe running down it.
     

    deadday

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    If my attorney sounded like a high school head cheerleader I wouldn't feel very secure in the plan. :rolleyes: I'm sure this is not the last thing this guy's chain of command has planned for him. I'm not a JAG but seems to me this guy is in for a world of hurt.


    While its an interesting case, I'm not certain I like what this guy is doing. Abandoning his brothers and sisters in a time of war seems cowardly to me. Waiting for deployment orders to make the case is underhanded.

    I didn't vote for Mr Obama but you don't hang your unit/squadron out to dry.

    I doubt the Army will bother with any UCMJ....to do so they would have to open a huge can of worms proving that the orders were indeed lawful...the trial would drag on for a very long time and would be very detrimental to morale...As a poster said above, I think a quiet early retirement will be pushed through..
     
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