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  • Sapper740

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    I'm considering picking up a couple of slide fire stocks, one for an AK, the other for an AR in case I need to increase my volume of fire during a SHTF situation. I'd like to hear people's opinions of them, especially from TGT members who own or have fired them. I've watched several videos and they seem to quite controllable, at least in the AR and look like they'd make a great MDU (MOB DISPERSAL UNIT), especially with a Beta mag. Your thoughts, Gentlemen?
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    reddog

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    Whether it would have any practical value or not in a tactical environment I couldn't say but I have one on a 9mm AR and it is a blast to shoot. Like anything like the slidefire practice is the important thing. I have fired thousands of rounds using mine and feel quite comfortable with using it accurately, but that's with a lot of practice.
     

    grumper

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    No.

    For life or death situation reliability needs to be as close to 100% as possible.

    I've bump fired an AR fast enough the old fashioned way with a light 2 stage trigger and ended up with hammer down on a live round, no boom, weapon is useless until recocked.

    In SHTF I wouldn't even use my real select-fire because it's a range toy that uses non-standard parts which took tinkering to make it run right.

    If you want one for fun then get it for that reason.
     
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    Brains

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    For a SHTF moment I think I'd rather conserve ammo, minimize reloads, make every shot count and stay SA. Personal opinion.
     

    London

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    FA is fine if your are in the military using military suppressive fire tactics. By your onesies, paying for your own ammo, you'll probably be better off going SA.

    I haven't bump-fired but I understand even those stocks take skill and practice. In a life/death adrenaline dump situation I doubt you will have the coordination left to make this work.
     

    Ready.Fire.Aim

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    Bad idea. Aim and hit your targets.

    I have a slide- fire, it is a fun toy, nothing else.

    I have shot thousands of rounds of full auto in different machine guns including M16s, SMG, and belt fed. Full auto it is not accurate beyond 25 yards - unless it is a belt fed mounted on a solidly emplaced tripod.
     
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    I have an SA Mac11 that will bump fire easy and will dump a 30 round mag in less than 2 seconds but it is just something to play with and not something that you would have to depend on.



    A hell of a lot of fun.
     

    Shotgun Jeremy

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    I tried the slide fire. Too much to it-I couldnt get it to work. In a home defensive situation, you will not be accurate with any type of full auto. If you really wanna be deadly, stick with three round burst or single fire and fast reflexes. Full auto is mainly to lay suppressive fire while someone else charges forward or works to flank the enemy. It can be ok for use against an oncoming vehicle if you just have nothing else, but thats about it. If you're alone and have an oncoming vehicle threat, you're better off trying to make yourself invisible and assessing the situation once they get out.
     

    CJ7nvrstk

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    I have an SA Mac11 that will bump fire easy and will dump a 30 round mag in less than 2 seconds but it is just something to play with and not something that you would have to depend on.



    A hell of a lot of fun.


    ditto!

    like others have said, wastes too much ammo and significant practice is needed to be proficient.
     

    HKaltwasser

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    I have thought about this too. The only time I could see any value to FA fire is if it was total WROL situation and a herd was rushing your position.
    Unfold the bipod, pop a FA trigger pack in and rock N roll. It would have to be a just absolute survival to burn ammo up like that. I wouldn't do an illegal conversion unless it was just mayham and had to do it to protect my family. It would take 5 minutes for my HK's and would be like original configuration for reliability. I'm not at all suggesting anyone do this, just if I were gonna die by a bunch or renegades.....you know what they say about being judged by 12.
     

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    About the only situation I could think of where it might be useful is suppressive fire. You against 15 guys coming through the front door. It would be enough to get them traveling in the opposite direction and probably take quite a few of them out too. Of course in a situation like that your chances of surviving are pretty small. They ARE NOT hard to use. It's different, to be sure, but once you get it, they are easy to work, and LOADS of fun (if you have the ammo.) I would not hesitate to get one and try it out to see how you like it, then decide for yourself. Pretty sure you'll love it. There's no comparison to "normal" bumpfire. This is much easier and far more controllable. (not to mention safer)

    One thing I like to do to them is remove a little material off the back of the block that replaces the grip (the thing it slides on) so that I can collapse the stock fully forward and it clicks into place firmly. The trigger then sets behind the "shelf" you use to bump fire it, and you can use it in semi-mode with just the tip of your finger. Takes a lot of the wobble out of the stock that way and makes it feel more like a normal stock.

    Here is also another option that's made from aluminum. Bit more expensive, but maybe more rugged if you are thinking 20-30 years down the road.
     
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    Texan2

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    A slide fire is like anything else. If you dont practice with it, you wont be effective with it. In reality most well trained shooters with a semi auto AR could drop as many BGs as anyone who picks up a slide fire.

    In addition, in the scenario you describe, spraying valuable ammo may not be the best idea, unless you are defending an ammo warehouse and have a bottomless resupply bin.
     

    macshooter

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    An AR15 with slidefire and a few surefire 60s loaded with real lake city M855 penetrator ammo is a pretty good combo for suppressive fire IMO.
     

    macshooter

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