Carry at Church on school grounds

[TX69]

Going to a new church and it is held at a middle school on school grounds. Am I okay to carry?

 

[Dawico]

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I believe school being in session is what changes the rules on that but I would like to hear from someone in the know also.

 

[rsayloriii]

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I believe school being in session is what changes the rules on that but I would like to hear from someone in the know also.

Same here ... I would THINK, but that only leads me to trouble and I wouldn't want him finding out the hard way either.

 

[jordanmills]

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I believe school being in session is what changes the rules on that but I would like to hear from someone in the know also.

There is no provision in the law for the current use of the building. The phrase is "the physical premises of a school or educational institution" where premises basically means a building but nothing "outside" or just covered. Neither "school" nor "educational institution" are defined in that section as I can find, though I thought I had a vague memory of finding one. HB2381 from 83(r) demonstrates that legislators appear to believe that the prohibition from carrying currently applies regardless of when classes are in session.

I don't think it's been tested in court. Personally, I would not carry in any building that could reasonably be called a school, regardless of class being in session.

 

[Dawico]

Nvm

 

[TX69]

Next question would be can you even pull into the parking lot and secure your carry piece in the vehicle?

 

[TX69]

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I believe school being in session is what changes the rules on that but I would like to hear from someone in the know also.

Nothing is in session. The church and its members are using the schools building.

 

[txinvestigator]

Nothing is in session. The church and its members are using the schools building.

Does not matter if school is in session or not. If it is a school, no carry.

 

[txinvestigator]

Next question would be can you even pull into the parking lot and secure your carry piece in the vehicle?

Of course. Just like any other school

 

[TX69]

Does not matter if school is in session or not. If it is a school, no carry.

Of course. Just like any other school

Thanks TXI. I sure hope that any American Jihad Terrorists do not find out that there is a large group of law abiding Christians meeting every Sunday unable to defend themselves being on school grounds.

 

[Charlie]

Do it like a drive-in movies.............. everybody sit in their vehicles and listen to the pastor up on a lift through window speakers!

 

[jordanmills]

Thanks TXI. I sure hope that any American Jihad Terrorists do not find out that there is a large group of law abiding Christians meeting every Sunday unable to defend themselves being on school grounds.

Well they don't bother the students during the week. Yet. At least not here - didn't stop tem from doing it in Nigeria today. Nigeria: Militants kill students in college attack

 

[txinvestigator]

Thanks TXI. I sure hope that any American Jihad Terrorists do not find out that there is a large group of law abiding Christians meeting every Sunday unable to defend themselves being on school grounds.

Tell your legislators.

 

[Dawico]

So what does this part specify:

***SECTION*2.**Section 46.03, Penal Code, is amended by*amending Subsections (a) and (f) and adding Subsection (f-1) to*read as follows:********(a)**A person commits an offense if the person intentionally,*knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, illegal*knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):**************(1)**unless pursuant to written regulations or written*authorization of a school or educational institution, regardless of*whether the school or educational institution is public or private,*on:********************(A)**the [physical] premises of*the*[a] school or*educational institution*on a day when classes are in session and*students are present;


Is that just clarifying something else or what? I read it as you can't carry when class is in session and students are present. I also read it as you can carry on those premises when those criteria are not met (like church on Sunday). What am I missing or does another law supersede this?