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  • txbikerman

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    it seems that these things happen more and more often. It is a scary world out there. Prayers going up for all involved
     

    benenglish

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    it seems that these things happen more and more often.
    Yes, it seems that way. Statistically, though, that's not the case. 2012 was an anomalously bad year and 2013 may turn out to be the same but, over the long view, shootings at schools have always happened.

    Nowadays, though, the media consistently throws them to the metaphorical front page and leaves them there.
     

    BG1960

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    I am firmly of the opinion that the media is driving these things. If nothing else, someone who would have been a quiet little obit in the back of the newspaper gets to be front page all over the world for a few days. Need to go back to the old ways and forget the names of these types.
     

    Southpaw

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    I am firmly of the opinion that the media is driving these things. If nothing else, someone who would have been a quiet little obit in the back of the newspaper gets to be front page all over the world for a few days. Need to go back to the old ways and forget the names of these types.

    I agree with that.
    But also, it's the parenting that I ultimately blame.

    There is very little chance of this happening with parent that is active in their child's day to day life. I understand that some parents or guardians cannot be around 24/7. But a kid doesn't just decide to do this overnight. Their daily behavior as well as the company and culture they keep still need to be monitored and if need be, put in check. But, tell that to a 20 to 40 year old parent these days, who isn't that much more mature then a 15 year old anyway, and you will probably will just get a puzzled response, if any at all.




    Yes, it seems that way. Statistically, though, that's not the case. 2012 was an anomalously bad year and 2013 may turn out to be the same but, over the long view, shootings at schools have always happened.

    Nowadays, though, the media consistently throws them to the metaphorical front page and leaves them there.

    I was thinking the same thing when I read the article of what Holder just said today about active shooter events in the other thread here.
     

    dustycorgill

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    Yes, it seems that way. Statistically, though, that's not the case. 2012 was an anomalously bad year and 2013 may turn out to be the same but, over the long view, shootings at schools have always happened.

    Nowadays, though, the media consistently throws them to the metaphorical front page and leaves them there.

    True. These things arent happening more often.......they have always happened. But in this day and age of 24-7 news coverage and reporters reporting the slightest fart from one of the Kardashians. we are going to hear about these shootings unlike in the past.
     

    SR9TEX

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    Very Sad, I wish it wasn't pushed to the front page or to the news channel over and over. Soon kids will be terrified to go to school.
     

    dustycorgill

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    IMHO he is a victim, but not of "gun violence" (God, I hate that term...). He's a victim of neglect and whatever else contributed to him snapping.

    Maybe his parents did neglect him. Im not trying to be "insensitive" here, but I went through a lot in my young years. Both at home and at school, being picked on and what not. Did I get mad? Yup. Did I wanna punch someone? Yup. Did I want to kill someone? No.
     

    Blind Sniper

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    I think you read a little too far into that... Or maybe I worded it wrong. Could be both.

    My point is, this could've been prevented relatively easily, just like the majority of these incidents, if the guy pulling the trigger had gotten the mental health care that he (rather obviously in most cases) needed.
     

    dustycorgill

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    I think you read a little too far into that... Or maybe I worded it wrong. Could be both.

    My point is, this could've been prevented relatively easily, just like the majority of these incidents, if the guy pulling the trigger had gotten the mental health care that he (rather obviously in most cases) needed.

    I probably did read more into it than I should have, sorry. I agree, I wouldnt be suprised to find out later that he had mental issues in the past.
     

    Blind Sniper

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    No apology needed, pal. And yeah, I'd be more surprised if he didn't have issues. When someone's last words are "my life is over", that implies that things are seriously screwed up in their life.
     

    dustycorgill

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    It will also be interesting to see how he got his hands on a gun. If that is one thing I am hard core about it is making sure the only weapon outside my safe is the one on my hip. It is crazy how many people dont think twice about leaving them unsecured when they have kids around, especially when they have friends that are over all of the time.
     

    Blind Sniper

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    Amen to that. I'm willing to bet he either stole it from the parental/family safe, or someone screwed up (and most likely broke the law) by leaving a gun where a kid could get to it.
     

    dustycorgill

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    Happens way too often. You would think we as parents and "adults" would learn from it and make sure it does not happen to us. I guess that is asking too much though, some folks feel like things like this will never happen to them.
     

    ROGER4314

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    Clearly, the next witch hunt will be about where and how that kid got the gun. Knowing that theft is always possible, I'll put that on the back burner for now. I refuse to concentrate on the tool. Instead, I look at the Human behavior.

    Today, my main concern is about the killer and, of course, his victim. What brings a kid to the point where he will, with premeditation, kill his teacher then himself?

    I don't accept excuses. Horrible things were done to me as a child for many years but I never killed anyone! Our home life was immersed in alcoholism and I became a chemical abuser myself............but I never killed anyone! What is the trigger that pushes these people to go over that edge? I study the backgrounds of these killers and compare them to my own. Frankly, their backgrounds are pretty dull and mundane compared to mine.

    I grew up to be a tough SOB and hurt a lot of people........but never killed anyone. I've always had guns around my life but never harmed anyone with a firearm. What is the final straw? Why do they go over the edge?

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