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  • London

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    That magazine is nothing but a gun industry fluff-piece clearinghouse anyway. I think I paid $12 for a 1 year subscription; I still want my $12 back.

    Shooting Times and Shotgun News are the only gun mags I know of with a soupcon of substance (although SN is way overdue to apologize to Kurt Saxon for pussying out and refusing to sell his books in the eighties).

    Thanks for reinforcing my decision to never buy Guns and Ammo again, Dick.
     

    Byrd666

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    I read the article in G&A that is the topic of this. My take on the article was not about gun control, but, about the needs for, or, of regulations concerning the purchase of firearms and licensing of Concealed Carry Permits. Though I don't necessarily agree with all of the article, some of it is quite sound. Such as, paraphrasing here, you wouldn't want a bunch of people driving off a new/used car lots without the minimum requirements having been met for a drivers license. I feel the same way about CCW. I'd like to know for a fact that the guy/girl standing next to me has shown proficiency in the safe operation of their weapon in order to get their CHL.

    My take on it. And I have slept a bit since reading it.
     

    vmax

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    what a turd Dick looks like right now.
    his wrong assertion about "regulation" makes him look ignorant as hell

    I don't know why GA printing this crap, its just fodder for the antis to use against us
     

    London

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    I'd like to know for a fact that the guy/girl standing next to me has shown proficiency in the safe operation of their weapon in order to get their CHL.

    Better move out of Texas, then...
     

    Acera

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    Do something about it, I did.

    Send them an email and ask WTF.

    Contact Guns & Ammo


    (I also asked to be included by email in any formal response they make to his blunder. Not holding my breath on that one, as they may have just jumped the shark.)


    Shooting Times and Shotgun News are the only gun mags I know of with a soupcon of substance

    You do know that both of those other magazines come from the same folks right??? Just another label on a product from the same guys that hired the turd and allowed him to spew is crap.
     
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    grumper

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    Is this the same rag that Zumbo worked for ?

    I don't keep track because they're all shit.

    Only gun journal I ever subbed to was Small Arms Review but let it expire when they decided to print quarterly issues instead of monthly and will never resub after the NFATCA (who SAR's Dan Shea is on the board of) screwed a large percentage of current and future NFA owners with the trust/LLC/corp rule change.

    Gun magazines = steaming dog shit where gun grabbers in disguise spew their anti-freedom manifestos while scheming on ways to **** you.

    May they all go out of business.
     
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    Shooter McGavin

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    I read the article in G&A that is the topic of this. My take on the article was not about gun control, but, about the needs for, or, of regulations concerning the purchase of firearms and licensing of Concealed Carry Permits. Though I don't necessarily agree with all of the article, some of it is quite sound. Such as, paraphrasing here, you wouldn't want a bunch of people driving off a new/used car lots without the minimum requirements having been met for a drivers license. I feel the same way about CCW. I'd like to know for a fact that the guy/girl standing next to me has shown proficiency in the safe operation of their weapon in order to get their CHL.

    My take on it. And I have slept a bit since reading it.

    I agree with you on that and have stated such once before in the past, as a result I was reffered to as a socialist and communist by a couple of our fellow members on here. I have no opposition to CC carry what so ever, in fact I'd love to see Texas become an open carry state. However and to use the comparison you offered, a firearm much like an automobile can be dangerous in the hands of an individual who doesn't know how to properly and safely operate it. I truly don't see the harm in somebody attending a basic instructional course on the safe handling of a firearm, much like driver's E.D. for new driver's. The vast majority of us on here were born and raised in Texas, hunting and firearms are a big part of growing up and is part of our Texan culture. Even so, I still had to attend a Hunter's Safety Course to legally hunt and though I saw it as rather elementary there were a handful of folks there who were just about completely lost on the subject. I then realized the benefit of educating those individuals who had not been amongst us in the firearm or hunting community and I was pleased to see that those going out into the field for the first time at least knew how to properly and safely handle their firearm. It's no different than anything else we do in life, I had to attend many hours of instructional training to safely and efficiently perform in my proffesion as I'm sure many of you had to do. I just simply can't see the harm in educating individuals about anything that relates to the safety of themselves and others.
     

    JSF

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    If it were anything like the hunters safety course then no point in goin through the trouble

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk
     

    Moonpie

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    Zumbo and this guy are Fudd's.

    They think that by "compromising" it will keep the anti's off their beloved hunting firearms.

    These idiots are totally willing to throw your hi-cap handgun and/or evil black rifle owning arse under the bus in the mistaken belief by doing so the anti's will leave them alone.

    The anti's want EVERYBODY(except them of course) unarmed PERIOD!

    They are TRAITORS to the 2A. They should be ostracised.
     

    Shooter McGavin

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    If it were anything like the hunters safety course then no point in goin through the trouble

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    Well no but only to certain degree. Like I said there were individuals in the class I went to that were completely lost. I'm mean seriously they had no idea about firearms anything and there's no doubt in my mind that there are similar individuals that go to the CC course either. Which is my whole point, I'd rather know that you had to at least demonstrate a minimum level of competence in the use of a firearm to carry it next to my family and myself than not knowing you're just some knot head who learned about firearms by playing Call Of Duty on your PS3 all day. Believe me, there're plenty of them out there....
     

    Southpaw

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    Well no but only to certain degree. Like I said there were individuals in the class I went to that were completely lost. I'm mean seriously they had no idea about firearms anything and there's no doubt in my mind that there are similar individuals that go to the CC course either. Which is my whole point, I'd rather know that you had to at least demonstrate a minimum level of competence in the use of a firearm to carry it next to my family and myself than not knowing you're just some knot head who learned about firearms by playing Call Of Duty on your PS3 all day. Believe me, there're plenty of them out there....

    Other states issue w/o any competency requirement. They don't seem any more of a problem then we do with incompetent firearms use.

    Assuming that a class will somehow make a "knot head" not a "knot head" is giving way to much credit to a natural born "knot head", and if anything, is more there to offer you a false sense of security then actually make them a safe firearm user.
     

    Shooter McGavin

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    There are states that require no course, no test, no instruction, no nothing? Any legal resident can just carry a firearm around? Simply out of curiosity which states are they?
    I'm speaking of concealed or open hand gun carry only. And not that I'm completely against Joe Blow carrying his .45 without any type of documentation. The issue I can see is maybe Joe Blow has never had any experience with a firearm and goes out and buys one because his neighbor has a bad a$$ looking 1911, so he decides he wants to carry around one to. Simply look at the "tacticool" explosion that has taken place over the last few years.
    Not to argue your point as it is valid, "you can't fix stupid" and maybe you're correct in stating that it provides me a false sense of security. However, I still believe that there are numerous people that go into a firearm course, whatever it may be for and come out with a better understanding and a better appreciation for the use and responsibility that comes with firearm ownership.
     

    winchster

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    There are states that require no course, no test, no instruction, no nothing? Any legal resident can just carry a firearm around? Simply out of curiosity which states are they?
    I'm speaking of concealed or open hand gun carry only. And not that I'm completely against Joe Blow carrying his .45 without any type of documentation. The issue I can see is maybe Joe Blow has never had any experience with a firearm and goes out and buys one because his neighbor has a bad a$$ looking 1911, so he decides he wants to carry around one to. Simply look at the "tacticool" explosion that has taken place over the last few years.
    Not to argue your point as it is valid, "you can't fix stupid" and maybe you're correct in stating that it provides me a false sense of security. However, I still believe that there are numerous people that go into a firearm course, whatever it may be for and come out with a better understanding and a better appreciation for the use and responsibility that comes with firearm ownership.

    Just curious, should one be required to take a test prior to being allowed to speak their views in public?
     

    Southpaw

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    There are states that require no course, no test, no instruction, no nothing? Any legal resident can just carry a firearm around? Simply out of curiosity which states are they?


    Pennsylvania. 21 or older, application & background check only. Plus it will cost you a whopping $19 or so!!!!!
     
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