Unprecedented Series of Violence against Christian Symbols

[ShootWhenICan]

Religion of peace and tolerance does it again.


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Germany: Unprecedented Series of Violence against Christian Symbols

Posted on December 7, 2013

Burned crosses, smashed statues – there have been 26 cases reported since September. The German Muensterland region faces a series of violence against Christian symbols that is without precedent in history. Having even climbed over high fences with sharp spikes, offenders acted with complete determination. National media haven’t reported about the incidents so far. Only the local television channel has made it the “topic of the day”. These attacks stand in a line with the recent Allahu akbar-graffiti at four German churches. Fortunately, police was able to get hold of the offender of the islamic graffiti, a Muslim asylum seeker from Jordan. So, unsurprisingly police in Muensterland has said that the attacks there are presumably religiously motivated. Anything more would have probably been “islamophobic”.

By way of comparison, if you remember when five pig heads were found recently on a future building site of a mosque in Leipzig? Member of Parliament Sigmar Gabriel called it an “attack on society”. Guess what he said about the 27 cases of desecration in Muensterland. You’re right – nothing.

 

[Jakashh]

Hell, even the satanic guys went around burning churches in Norway. People need to chill out lol.

 

[London]

Hell, even the satanic guys went around burning churches in Norway. People need to chill out lol.

Correction- they were black metal; not Satanic (despite what the cover of Lords of Chaos says). The attacks were motivated by music (and to a lesser extent neo-national socialist politics); not religion.

 

[stormbringerr]

i am gnostic and dont believe in the religious dogma of any organized religion. throughout history it has been proven to cause only war,hatred and strife

 

[breakingcontact]

i am gnostic and dont believe in the religious dogma of any organized religion. throughout history it has been proven to cause only war,hatred and strife

Righhhhht. Those peaceful athiests in the USSR and China never hurt a fly.

 

[breakingcontact]

If you havent traveled or studied Western Europe you dont realize that a lot of our Christian churches would be outlawed there. Its a real mess. No actual free speech. My German friend pays taxes through the government to the Lutheran church. What kind of sermons do you expect out of that?

 

[stormbringerr]

i am a graduate of Rice University, major in medieval history in western civilization.the rantings of one crazed monk percipitated the crusades that went on between1095-1291. .much religious ideas come down from sun worship.the egyptian god horus was born on dec. 25 ,had 12 helpers the signs of the zodiac, was born under a star same as mithra and a lot of other(pagan) gods.sound familiar?letting a human pastor or priest tell me what to think and how to act is nothing more than slavery to me.also the 10 commandments come straight out of thr egyptian book of the dead,and also the Hammurabi law code of sumeria.
science and education to me is the only answer.i could write an essay on this but dont have time.all you have to do is read the book common sense by Thomas Paine one of our greatest founding fathers who was an englishman.i am not an atheist but am completely against any and all organized religion, its full of frauds and people that will never progress because they have bought into one unflexable ideology.

 

[stormbringerr]

If you havent traveled or studied Western Europe you dont realize that a lot of our Christian churches would be outlawed there. Its a real mess. No actual free speech. My German friend pays taxes through the government to the Lutheran church. What kind of sermons do you expect out of that?

taxes? i believe you mean willingful tithes

 

[stormbringerr]

Righhhhht. Those peaceful athiests in the USSR and China never hurt a fly.

your answer has nothing to do with my statement.

 

[TX69]

Obamas fault

 

[breakingcontact]

taxes? i believe you mean willingful tithes

No. You are a history major from Rice, im surprised youre not familiar with this. Its called a "church tax" and its common in Europe. I guess you could argue its a tax you agree to? Most of the money does go to the church but through the state.

It is the standard for most denominations and it goes back centuries but a person could join a non-state tax denomination.

 

[stormbringerr]

No. You are a history major from Rice, im surprised youre not familiar with this. Its called a "church tax" and its common in Europe. I guess you could argue its a tax you agree to? Most of the money does go to the church but through the state.

It is the standard for most denominations and it goes back centuries but a person could join a non-state tax denomination.

enforced tithes come from when all of europe was once in a death grip by the church of rome and thier dogma and greed.church taxes are fairly recent in the historical timeline

 

[vmax]

From a Christian standpoint, Christ predicted in the last days before His return that the many in the world would turn on Christ and his followers
Not only will they reject Christianity but they will actually rise up against it. I have lived though the times where I saw many people embrace or at least identify with Christianity then later many people have been indifferent to it and now over just the past few years, I have seen a swing to what this story is showing. As far as I am concerned, this was all predicted and again, this is my viewpoint and I realize others won't share it as widely

 

[breakingcontact]

i am gnostic and dont believe in the religious dogma of any organized religion. throughout history it has been proven to cause only war,hatred and strife

Quoted your first post for context.



Regarding the violence of Muslims against Christians, yes it is a major problem in most of the world. Christians certainly also killed lots of their own and "others" throughout history. However, it was those with no religion except for that of man and state, the communists, who did more killing in the last few hundred years than anyone. It was these people who had their own self determined set of "ethics" not religious morals who killed around 100 million people in the last century.

But as a Rice U graduate in history im sure you know this, which makes me wonder why you are attacking religion in general when it is the secular who worship the state and man who have done far greater evil?

 

[stormbringerr]

Quoted your first post for context.



Regarding the violence of Muslims against Christians, yes it is a major problem in most of the world. Christians certainly also killed lots of their own and "others" throughout history. However, it was those with no religion except for that of man and state, the communists, who did more killing in the last few hundred years than anyone. It was these people who had their own self determined set of "ethics" not religious morals who killed around 100 million people in the last century.

But as a Rice U graduate in history im sure you know this, which makes me wonder why you are attacking religion in general when it is the secular who worship the state and man who have done far greater evil?

the religious wars of europe between protastants and cathloics set europe back hundreds of years,even to the point of almost total chaos.everyone has a right to their own relegious views but not the right to inflict them on others.

 

[stormbringerr]

 

[breakingcontact]

Muslims are currently terroizing Jews, Christians, those who practice local religions all over the world and secular people all over the world. You cant deny that right? I certainly dont deny lots of violence has been done in the name of Christianity.

So your response is to condemn all religion and embrace "reason"? You studied the French Revolution right? That was a bit of a bloody embrace of "reason" no? China, Russia...no religion, just reason, man, self determined ethics and the state. 100 million killed.

I suppose if you back down from your wide attack on religion and modify it to "religious extremists" i can yield to your point as you should yield to the manifistations of civilizations with no religion and how much chaos and bloodshed they have visited on modernity.

 

[stormbringerr]

i am against (organized) religion. my spiritual beliefs are in my mind and i need no interpertation of them from any cleric of any organized religion.russia was very religious when they helped precipitate the first world was.the czar was thought to have devine rule.

 

[stdreb27]

I think a lot of you guys are attributing the perversion of man, to amass power, to God and religion.

Man has been using any means available to amass power and wealth and control throughout his history. Whether it be in the name of God through religion or in the name of government. This doesn't discredit God, but man.

 

[stormbringerr]

I think a lot of you guys are attributing the perversion of man, to amass power, to God and religion.

Man has been using any means available to amass power and wealth and control throughout his history. Whether it be in the name of God through religion or in the name of government. This doesn't discredit God, but man.

man invented organized religion,i am against organized religion not someones spiritual beliefs.i believe i have made this clear.