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    min age of 44 works for me

    But seriously, are you looking to open as a self-serve membership operation or will the range be manned during hours of operation? (Kinda affects my answer).

    Regardless, I like a policy of must be 21 or have a CHL for handguns.


    If you're willing to share, what distance, number of lanes, caliber restrictions?

    I frequent BPS indoor for my pistol shooting and the occasional Camp Bullis trip on the weekends for long guns, but always looking for another place to shoot.
     
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    mitchntx

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    I know some 14 year old I feel safer shooting next to than some 44 year old.

    Tough question ...
     

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    Obviously minors (under 18) should have a parent or guardian with them to shoot.

    And why would having a CHL be a requirement? I know plenty of people without CHLs who are safe shooters.
     

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    Read it again....I suggested 21 or CHL to bring handguns on range (active military can get a CHL at 18). I didn't say anything about CHL-holders only.
     
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    Minimum age? How about tall enough to see over the bench. Lots of people teach their kids to shoot at a very young age.

    So notex, I'm guessing you don't want most LEO's on your range? Most of them don't have a CHL.

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    Minimum age? How about task enough to see over the bench. Lots of people teach their kids to shoot at a very young age.

    So notex, I'm guessing you don't want most LEO's on your range? Most of them don't have a CHL.

    There you go.

    Instead of generating a lot of rules based upon no sound reasoning, hire decent, respectful RSOs to weed out the commandos.


    Minimum unaccompanied age should be 18.

    I would imagine that is insurance driven.
     
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    Regardless, I like a policy of must be 21 or have a CHL for handguns.

    Kind of redundant ... you have to be 21 to have a CHL anyways.

    18 for the minimum age UNLESS accompanied by a parent/guardian is the typical rule, and since you'll need insurance, I'm sure it's one they'll want you to have or they probably won't cover you. As long as there is a responsible (<-key word) adult with them, then age shouldn't matter.
     

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    Lots of folks jumping to all kind of crazy inferences and/or not comprehending what I wrote. Never suggested anything about kids not being able to come accompanied by an adult. Never wrote LEOs should not be welcome.

    Just suggested if a person is BRINGING a HANDGUN to a range, they should be 21 or have a CHL. It’s the same mindset I have why I don’t sell a HANDGUN to someone under 21 (unless they have a CHL…see below). I bet Hillco Gunsmith doesn't make a lot of handgun sales to the under-21 crowd either.

    Parent wants to bring their kid out to shoot some long gun or pistol – heck yes.
    Unaccompanied 19 year old with long gun - yes
    Unaccompanied 19 year old with pistol – I would suggest no (unless he has a CHL)
    LEO – All day long


    How about task enough to see over the bench.
    task?

    Lots of so I’m guessing you don't want most LEO's on your range? Most of them don't have a CHL.
    Again, it ain’t my potential range we’re talking about and I never said anything about excluding LEOs…although most LEOs are 21 or over.

    Kind of redundant ... you have to be 21 to have a CHL anyways.
    You are mistaken. As previously mentioned: LINK "You must be at least 21 years of age or at least 18 years of age if currently serving in or honorably discharged from the military."

    My kids were shooting competitively at the age of 12. What's with this "21 or CHL" garbage???
    Good for you. Please re-read my posts.
     
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    majormadmax

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    Personally, I'd like to see a requirement that males would have to wear their pants at the waist and not lower...

    Females may dress as inappropriately as they'd like! :D
     

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    18 unaccompanied, younger must be accompanied by an adult.

    The pistol rules mentioned above are pure nonsense. Makes absolutely no sense.

    Have good RSOs and have enough to cover the range adequately no matter what age limit you set. That will allow you to adjust rules for, or remove individuals as needed.
     

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    Simple rule - 18+ unless accompanied by a responsible adult. Supervising adult must be in immediate control of the minor at all times. Done.

    There's no point on age restricting a handgun to 21 and over because it's legal for an 18 year old to buy a handgun in Texas.

    My kids were shooting competitively at the age of 12. What's with this "21 or CHL" garbage???

    +1 to that. I've helped teach a friend's son to shoot and at 17 he's safer on the range than a lot of the people I've seen in a CHL class.
     
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    Nortex

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    Why [don't you sell handguns to under 21]? The law doesn't require that of you?
    see below



    There's no point on age restricting a handgun to 21 and over because it's legal for an 18 year old to buy a handgun in Texas.
    Not from a dealer, which Hillco Gunsmith is. 18 USC 922 (b) (1)

    Gentlemen, I doubt that any of us on this forum are problem children on a shooting range. We've been taught properly and we teach our kids properly.

    Unfortunately, there are a lot of folks out there who can legally buy rifles and pistols but were NOT taught properly. With all the latest gun hype, there seem to be more bozos on the local San Antonio gun ranges. My suggestion was to simply help vett some of those before they set foot on a new range owner's property AND increase the overall safety/enjoyability for all. If you think about it, my suggestion would likely would be zero impact for most of you (and your kids that you bring with you to shoot) but might keep away the 19 year old gangbanger trying to shoot his Glock sideways.

    It's interesting a hypothetical rule suggestion for a not-yet-open privately-owned gun range generated so much knee-jerk vitriol. Let's all save it for someone challenging our 2nd Amendment rights.

    Ultimately Hillco Gunsmith will decide what works best for his range. My final input would be that San Antonio already has a few ranges with questionable reputations. It would be nice to have a quality range with responsible patrons.



    Females may dress as inappropriately as they'd like! :D
    ah yes, and we can all agree on this.
     
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    Not from a dealer, which Hillco Gunsmith is. 18 USC 922 (b) (1)

    He's not talking about selling guns here, he's talking about shooting them.


    Gentlemen, I doubt that any of us on this forum are problem children on a shooting range. We've been taught properly and we teach our kids properly.

    Unfortunately, there are a lot of folks out there who can legally buy rifles and pistols but were NOT taught properly. With all the latest gun hype, there seem to be more bozos on the local San Antonio gun ranges. My suggestion was to simply help vett some of those before they set foot on a new range owner's property AND increase the overall safety/enjoyability for all. If you think about it, my suggestion would likely would be zero impact for most of you (and your kids that you bring with you to shoot) but might keep away the 19 year old gangbanger trying to shoot his Glock sideways.

    It's interesting a hypothetical rule suggestion for a not-yet-open privately-owned gun range generated so much knee-jerk vitriol. Let's all save it for someone challenging our 2nd Amendment rights.

    Ultimately Hillco Gunsmith will decide what works best for his range. My final input would be that San Antonio already has a few ranges with questionable reputations. It would be nice to have a quality range with responsible patrons.



    ah yes, and we can all agree on this.

    Why block an entire group of safe shooters because of a few that could easily be handled by the RSOs?

    The ranges that have questionable regulations usually don't get that way due to lack of rules, but failure to have the necessary manpower to enforce the rules they do have, or failure if RSOs to enforce those rules.

    As to "knee jerk vitriol", I would say it's coming from you more than any other. You have seen people at a range that bother you and your knee jerk reaction is to suggest a range not allow anyone fitting that demographic to shoot a specific type of gun type at that range.
     

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    Not from a dealer, which Hillco Gunsmith is. 18 USC 922 (b) (1)

    I know it's not legal for a dealer to sell a handgun (or, more accurately something that isn't a rifle or shotgun) to someone under 21. But that doesn't change the fact that an 18 year old can buy a handgun, and that makes barring some 19 year old from bringing a handgun to the range stupid.

    If you're worried about people coming out and trying to look like tough guys by shooting badly, good luck. There are entire shooting academies devoted to teaching people that kind of thing is OK. The solution to that (IMO) is to find range staff who actually have a clue and recruit regulars who also have a clue who have no problem speaking up and helping people on the line squared away. There are also local instructors you can find who might hang out at the range and recruit students by doing just that (there's one who does that at Bexar Community).

    If you're looking to have a quality range with responsible patrons, you're better off forgetting about the DOB on someone's ID and looking at how they actually act on range. There are a lot of people out there who'll surprise you one way or the other.

    But who am I to say...? I'm just some guy who's put a lot of lead in a lot of berms in a lot of states with a lot of different kinds of people to either side of me...
     
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