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  • ShootWhenICan

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    They start by taking away from those who know how to use a weapon and fight first.
    This will not end well my friends , sad state of affairs.
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    OUTRAGE! Obama Administration Is Secretly Declaring Thousands of US Veterans Incompetent – Then Taking Away Their Second Amendment Rights

    Posted by Jim Hoft on Monday, January 6, 2014, 6:30 AM



    US veterans started receiving letters from the government last year informing them that they are disabled and not allowed to own, purchase or possess a firearm. If the veteran does decide to purchase a firearm he will by fined, imprisoned or both.
    This comes on page 2 of the VA letter.

    Here is the full copy of the letter-
    Here is page 1 of the letter:

    Here is page 2:

    The majority of US veterans receive basically the same letter. Many of the veterans do not even know the VA declared them incompetent. The targeted veterans say the VA offers an appeals process but then does not share required information.
    VA Benefits Administrators are the ones making these declarations against veterans robbing them of their due process rights and arbitrarily submitting their names to the FBI’s NICS database without cause and many times without a veteran’s knowledge.
    This is an outrage!
    Last April the United States Justice Foundation (USJF) filed a suit against the Obama Administration on behalf of these abused veterans.
    Katharine Russ reported:
    The United States Justice Foundation (USJF) has filed the first lawsuit of what promises to be a string of lawsuits in the US District Court for the Southern District of California against the US Department of Veterans Affairs (DVA) and the Veterans Benefits Administration (VBA)…
    Current policies of the VA have caused more than 129,000 veterans to, arbitrarily, be deprived of their Second Amendment Rights to own firearms without due process simply because they were declared financially “incompetent.”
    These arbitrary policies, in no way, consider whether a veteran represents a danger to themselves or to others.
    It is, unequivocally, unsound and irrational thinking that sends our young men and women off to war and expects them to come home “whole.” Most veterans experience minor depression, minor PTSD, and even minor short-term memory loss when they return home but can still function- competently.
    No court would find them incompetent and strip them of their second amendment rights for such minor diagnoses unless they were proven to be a detriment to society. In some these cases, the VA does not even offer reasons or evidence for such a Determination.
    It is outrageous to think that over 100,000 US veterans are the victims of this sort of abuse.
    US veterans deserve the same Constitutional rights as the rest of us.


    OUTRAGE! Obama Administration Is Secretly Declaring Thousands of US Veterans Incompetent ? Then Taking Away Their Second Amendment Rights | The Gateway Pundit

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    ShootWhenICan

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    Well sure as hell I hope you're right.
    I hope the story, the letters they used as a source, the United States Justice Foundation and CityWatch are all lying and faking this entire thing.
    Seriously doubt it's the case but I hope your BS metter is correct..
    And all this just because they used the word......"Outrage" which this is anyway.
     

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    While I'm not ready to agree with the article above, I do see a cause for concern for Vets and the recent Presidential directive regarding mental health and the VA.

    PTSD, in my opinion, is being thrown around a little too much for my taste. If the VA were to encourage folks to apply for PTSD disability, that could theoretically trigger a denial through NICS based on mental health.

    If a guy needs to talk through a few issues after seeing his buddies killed in front of him when he first returns from battle, does that mean he should be banned for life from owning firearms? The VA might accidentally make a mental health mark on his so called permanent record.

    I'm not against not letting the mentally ill have guns. I just don't trust the government to do it correctly.
     

    RetArmySgt

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    I received a letter a while ago from the VA requesting that i submit to a mental health screening, they were using the offer of increased monthly payments if diagnosed with any mental health issue. At the end of the letter in smaller text it stated that if found to have a mental illness your rights to own firearms can/will be revoked. Three of my friends in the area also received the same letters.
     

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    :popcorn:

    When "news" reports use words like outrage, and thousands declared, my BS meter hits the wall.

    Since Obuttfuck took office, my bullshit meter has been pretty much pegged ....

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    dustycorgill

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    I received a letter a while ago from the VA requesting that i submit to a mental health screening, they were using the offer of increased monthly payments if diagnosed with any mental health issue. At the end of the letter in smaller text it stated that if found to have a mental illness your rights to own firearms can/will be revoked. Three of my friends in the area also received the same letters.

    My father faught in Vietnam and this really pisses me off. You guys laid it on the line for this couintry and this is how the bastards want to repay you all. How f'ed up is that?

    For what its worth, thanks for your service.
     

    txinvestigator

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    My father faught in Vietnam and this really pisses me off. You guys laid it on the line for this couintry and this is how the bastards want to repay you all. How f'ed up is that?

    For what its worth, thanks for your service.


    At least the government warned them that a diagnosis could result in a forfeiture :army:
     

    Shooter McGavin

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    If the report is correct, which given our current administrations policies and procedures I wouldn't discount it completely, how would they go about proving and enforcing such a law? Force their way into random vet's homes that have been determined "incompetent" search it and seize their firearms, then charge them.... I have a very hard time seeing that going over very well and not just for vets but for the majority of the American public.
     

    Southpaw

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    If the report is correct, which given our current administrations policies and procedures I wouldn't discount it completely, how would they go about proving and enforcing such a law? Force their way into random vet's homes that have been determined "incompetent" search it and seize their firearms, then charge them.... I have a very hard time seeing that going over very well and not just for vets but for the majority of the American public.

    Perhaps knowingly being a prohibited person in possession of a firearm, a felony, would be enough for many to give up their guns.
    They certainly couldn't use them for a self defense situation without potentially opening themselves up to such a charge.

    I don't see them knocking on Vets door, but you never know. They might be like the IRS and come knocking years later when you least expect them.
     
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