The Man Who Wants to Buy the Biggest U.S. Gun Maker Doesn't Own a Gun

[Southpaw]

The Man Bidding to Buy the Biggest U.S. Gun Maker Doesn't Own One - Businessweek

An affable guy with a thick Boston accent, Sullivan has some insightful things to say about the strangeness of established small arms manufacturers having so far resisted the integration of digital features into their products. He’s right that from a purely technological standpoint, it’s odd that small arms by and large haven’t progressed beyond mechanisms anchored firmly in the 20th century

“We want to make a transformative technological contribution to an industry that’s stuck in analog and inevitably must participate in the digital world transition that’s going on. This is about convergence.”

 

[robertc1024]

Sweet. I can plug my headphones into my pistol and listen to NPR interview Pelosi.

Seriously, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

[Younggun]

That's like saying we need to integrate digital electronics in to nuts and bolts.

Some things are purely mechanical for a reason.

 

[rsayloriii]

That's like saying we need to integrate digital electronics in to nuts and bolts.

Some things are purely mechanical for a reason.

Exactly. If it's digital, it's more likely to fail, or at least, just another way for it to fail.

 

[Vaquero]

That'll kill market share. They don't make 'em cuz people don't want 'em.

 

[Younggun]

I'd bet money Obama would be pushing for a bailout as the company starts to go belly up.

 

[Shotgun Jeremy]

This is gonna be just like how they digitalized the automotive industry. Now we have cars regulated out the ass that you need a degree to work on.

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[Tcruse]

Well, I think we are missing the elephant in the room. The machines that are used to make these parts are now much better and very much high tech. So, the advancement in hand guns and small rifles is in the design, materials, tools to work the materials, and the process. Our expectation on quality of the product is much different than just a few years ago. We will see more electronics in the scopes and sights. We may someday see bullets with micro processors to correct the flight path after the bullet leaves the gun. There is no dead end for these products.

 

[TheDan]

An electronic trigger would be nice. Could reduce lock time, improve trigger feel, etc...

Overall I think they are thinking more along the lines of a Judge Dredd type gun, tho. I can't see any real market need for something like that. Just more political BS.

 

[Ole Cowboy]

I did some research on RJ Sullivan and could not find him linked to any far left causes. Which is not to say he is not but I did not find any linkage with him or those he seems to surround himself with.

BUT I certainly view this with a bit of caution, non gun guy want to buy gun companies??????

 

[General Zod]

Y'know, nobody's putting electronic doo-dads on chainsaws or drills, posthole diggers, or other tools. A gun is a tool. The only place for electronics is in aiming devices - maybe. Putting electronics between the operator and the mechanism is not a positive change, it's a negative that will affect reliability.

 

[rsayloriii]

Another side to electronics in guns is easier disarmament, either by intention, or by accident. Intentional could be hacked into. Accidental could be an EMP blast. Either way, they're useless whereas a gun now, won't be.

 

[Shotgun Jeremy]

Cars have electronics, and now someone across the country can hit a switch and turn off your car and lock your doors. They do this for repo's. Imagine if that tech made it into our guns! We don't need that crap.

 

[F350-6]

Seems completely like a stupid idea to me, but then I'm old fashioned and I said the same thing the last time some firearms outsider tried to shake up the whole industry by introducing space aged polymers into the equation that had worked for years.

I think his name was Gaston something or other. I never bought one if his new fangled pistols, but I hear they caught on with some folks.

 

[grumper]

Seems completely like a stupid idea to me, but then I'm old fashioned and I said the same thing the last time some firearms outsider tried to shake up the whole industry by introducing space aged polymers into the equation that had worked for years.

I think his name was Gaston something or other. I never bought one if his new fangled pistols, but I hear they caught on with some folks.

Eugene Stoner jumped on the space age plastic doodad gun wagon long before Glock showed up.

As for stagnation in the firearms industry, the blame lies squarely at the feet of congress and the executive branch. Hiram Maxim would be a convicted felon today with all the BS innovation killing gun control laws that popped up after his time.

I'd love to see a fully automatic gyrojet handgun with electronic ignition and integrated aiming/guidance system but guess who put all the road blocks (NFA, GCA, ITAR, AWB, etc...) in the way of budding inventors?

If that shifty asshole really wanted to shake up the firearms industry, maybe he should spend his billions on buying some congressmen to repeal some laws.

 

[F350-6]

Eugene Stoner jumped on the space age plastic doodad gun wagon long before Glock showed up.

But he wasn't what you would call a, never been around guns before kind of guy. He did have a military/arms history.

As for stagnation in the firearms industry.....

It's not just the firearms industry. I'm still waiting on my flying car from the Jetsons. (After having a computer the constantly beeps and makes noises at things, and dealing with the computerized phone answering system at some companies, I've since retracted my wish for the talking computer from Star Trek)

 

[London]

tThe author is full of shit about 19th century technology. Name me a single gun maker of any significance that doesn't use manufacturing technology that would make even JMB have a happy accident in his pants. Just because you might not recognize it in the end product doesn't mean it's not there.

As far as visible results go; he must have been asleep since 1959 when Remington introduced the Nylon 66. Or the VP70 1970. Or Glock in 1985...

“A lot of people who don’t own guns would like to have one if it had digital features that gave them choices,” Sullivan says.

This guy doesn't have a clue about what he wants to get into.

Sullivan speaks about “coupling cyber-based technologies with enhanced digital product development.”

Oh, jeez. The guy sure has a firm handle of corporate-speak. Never seen an example of someone using this kind of language to make something mediocre at best try to seem like a hot new thing.

Depending on how tricked-out consumers want their customized weapon, TrackingPoint offers rifles for $22,000 and up.

Well if that's the closest analogue to this guy's vision I'm sure he's just going tell his guns like discount hot-cakes.

 

[London]

Another side to electronics in guns is easier disarmament, either by intention, or by accident. Intentional could be hacked into. Accidental could be an EMP blast. Either way, they're useless whereas a gun now, won't be.

EMP only effects large power systems. Cars and things like that still work just fine.

 

[Ole Cowboy]

tThe author is full of shit about 19th century technology. Name me a single gun maker of any significance that doesn't use manufacturing technology that would make even JMB have a happy accident in his pants. Just because you might not recognize it in the end product doesn't mean it's not there.

As far as visible results go; he must have been asleep since 1959 when Remington introduced the Nylon 66. Or the VP70 1970. Or Glock in 1985...



This guy doesn't have a clue about what he wants to get into.



Oh, jeez. The guy sure has a firm handle of corporate-speak. Never seen an example of someone using this kind of language to make something mediocre at best try to seem like a hot new thing.



Well if that's the closest analogue to this guy's vision I'm sure he's just going tell his guns like discount hot-cakes.

Ever tried to buy an anvil? Nothing big, but say around 75 lbs or so, just an old anvil...

We got a small auction outfit here in our town of about 12,000 folks. Its all on line. I say one from a local estate sale out of the guys barn. I could use one out here on my place I do some welding n stuff. I got in at $20 bucks, next day I checked and popped for $80, next day I hit it for $190. Now I am getting interested, $200 bucks, you crazy, not going there, but I followed it, it sold at $375. I knew the guy that finally won it and saw him down at the Tractor supply the other day. I said man are crazy on that anvil. He no, he needed one out on his place and has looked for years. He then asked if I had ever done any research on anvils? No, not really, he said do it, they are like gold. I did, he was right, so I am still with out an anvil. Then we got to talking about how somethings are as good today as they were hundreds of years ago.

I have owned a gun since age 5 and all my life have used iron sights. But as I approach 70, the ole eyeballs are not what they once were. So I have bought some scopes. Its taken a long time to get used to using a scope atop a gun. To me that is high tech. Do I need a scope that all I need to do is point my weapon in the general direction and pull the trigger when the thing beeps or the green light goes off?????? I will pass

 

[Younggun]

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