Anybody got HDPE I can buy? Looking for some about an inch thick...

[M. Sage]

For a little test. I'll let you know what it's about if you've got some 1" thick HDPE you can sell me at a reasonable price. 8x8x1 would probably suit me for now, I'd definitely buy some more depending on how the experiments go.

It'd be nice to get some before this weekend, as I'm planning on hitting the range then.

 

[M. Sage]

Sounds like I'm not the first to try this. Thanks for the heads-up.

 

[ConnRadd]

I'm a branch manager of a plastic distribution company. We sell HDPE all the time. I'm not the guru on this stuff, but I have a couple sales reps. that will forget more than I'll ever know about HDPE...

 

[ConnRadd]

this is what made me mention you connradd...

[url]http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/reloading/8281-testing-bullets-over-weekend.html[/URL]

Thanks....
Just last week I was talking to one of my sales reps. and he informed me that HDPE can and has been used as bullet resistant for these quickie marts.
We had a guy come in and spend $3000.00 on the same product that I shot in to a month or so ago. His store has been robbed at gun point several times and said his life is worth the $3k. Well, the common mistake that people make is, they put BR polycarb (which is clear) above the counter, but nothing but plywood below. So, to have "low cost" BR product below the counter, you could use HDPE... So, I learned something and made me want to test it was well...

Just remember, if anyone plans to test HDPE or BR Polycarb; this is a "Bullet Resistant" product... Sometimes the bullets may come back. So, I would recommend a shield of some sort. I built one out of 3/8' polycarb, put a 6" window to shoot out of.. One of my reps. tried shooting into BR Polycarb years ago and end up getting hit in the chest by a ricochet. He was luck and it only left a nasty bruise.

 

[M. Sage]

I'd probably shoot at a slight oblique, and at the very least from a distance that's considered safe for shooting at steel targets.

 

[kingofwylietx]

[url]www.usplastics.com[/URL] is a good source for plastics.

They have HDPE 24"x48"x1" for $95. [url]http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=72&product%5Fid=10369[/URL]

 

[ConnRadd]

http://www.usplastics.com[url]www.usplastics.com[/URL] is a good source for plastics.

They have HDPE 24"x48"x1" for $95. http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/pr...e=USPlastic&category_name=72&product_id=10369[url]http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=72&product%5Fid=10369[/URL]

That's about right for internet retail pricing on plastic...

I have HDPE on my floor in Dallas and Houston:
1" 24x48 Nat. HDPE SR - $73.00 (Retail)
TGT Members pricing... PM me..

 

[Fisherman777]

That's about right for internet retail pricing on plastic...

I have HDPE on my floor in Dallas and Houston:
1" 24x48 Nat. HDPE SR - $73.00 (Retail)
TGT Members pricing... PM me..

Thanks ConRadd! I'm sure most of the members here would rather buy from you any day than a company who may or may not be 2nd Amendment friendly. Good price too!

 

[Wolfwood]

hmmm
while we are ont he the topic conradd, what would be the best choice for a BR/BP sheild that is still fairly lightweight? like im thinking riot sheild carry around and stuff type thing...

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just curious...

 

[ConnRadd]

Thanks ConRadd! I'm sure most of the members here would rather buy from you any day than a company who may or may not be 2nd Amendment friendly. Good price too!

No Problem... Just returning the help that others have given me...

 

[ConnRadd]

hmmm
while we are ont he the topic conradd, what would be the best choice for a BR/BP sheild that is still fairly lightweight? like im thinking riot sheild carry around and stuff type thing...

?
just curious...

I think would be tough to find BR that is lightweight enough for someone to carry a period of time... I want to test 3/8" polycarbonate (lexan), it may not be rated as BR, but might deflect smaller caliber ammo... 3/8" 2' x 4' Polycarb weighs about 19 lbs.. I use 3/8" Polycarb as a shield when I shoot into BR material.

 

[M. Sage]

I know that it takes about .1" polycarb to stop lighter bird shot from a 20 gauge. It'll also stop a 1/4" steel ball bearing at 400 FPS - that's what my paintball goggles were made of when I played.

I wonder how much it would take to stop even a .38 SPL. Seems like it would take a lot - 1/2" easy.

 

[MadMo44Mag]

Way back when I worked as an injection molding foreman we made parts for the F16 out of a special acrylic. It came from [FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica]Monsanto Co.
It was harder than poly-carb and almost as hard as glass filled poly-carb and way more flexible and optically clear.
I wounder if a product like this would be better than standard poly-carb?
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[ConnRadd]

I know that it takes about .1" polycarb to stop lighter bird shot from a 20 gauge. It'll also stop a 1/4" steel ball bearing at 400 FPS - that's what my paintball goggles were made of when I played.

I wonder how much it would take to stop even a .38 SPL. Seems like it would take a lot - 1/2" easy.

Not sure, be something to test out. I can get some drops of 1/2" and 3/8" Polycarb to test. But, I'm not willing to to stand 3 feet away to give it "real world" testing. I'll keep about 20 to 25 feet behind a polycarb shield. Let me know, I can get you some as well to test...

 

[ConnRadd]

Way back when I worked as an injection molding foreman we made parts for the F16 out of a special acrylic. It came from [FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica]Monsanto Co.
It was harder than poly-carb and almost as hard as glass filled poly-carb and way more flexible and optically clear.
I wounder if a product like this would be better than standard poly-carb?
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I never heard of an acrylic product being harder than polycarb. I know they make acrylic with modifiers, that is much harder than acrylic, but not polycarb. The main reason things are made with modified acrylic vs to polycarb. is UV rays. Acrylic by nature is UV resistant, with polycarb is not. They do coat polycarb with UV inhibitors to give it an outdoor life of 7 to 10 years. But, the auto and aviation industry drives a lot of the technology for see-through plastics. So, there may be some patented items that is only released to auto makers, military, etc...

 

[ConnRadd]

Here's a video I found on motorcycle shields...

Polycarbonate vs Acrylic
Polycarbonate vs Acrylic PlasticVideo

 

[MadMo44Mag]

I never heard of an acrylic product being harder than polycarb. I know they make acrylic with modifiers, that is much harder than acrylic, but not polycarb. The main reason things are made with modified acrylic vs to polycarb. is UV rays. Acrylic by nature is UV resistant, with polycarb is not. They do coat polycarb with UV inhibitors to give it an outdoor life of 7 to 10 years. But, the auto and aviation industry drives a lot of the technology for see-through plastics. So, there may be some patented items that is only released to auto makers, military, etc...

This may be very true.
The product came from [FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica]Monsanto Co.in 1000 lbs galord boxes and all had a stamp on the lid and all for sides as well as the bag tie that stated something along the lines of a Military ID#, special production and lot #'s.
We had to test each piece on a special jig for harness and clarity.
What we found interesting was it was harder to break than regular poly-carb because it would bend without breaking.
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