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  • Charlie

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    If you really feel that way-don't carry a weapon-some officer may disagree with the law on the street and ....

    I'm not "giving my opinion" I'm answering the OP's request for a LEGAL solution to his problem. I backed up my answer with the current law.

    If you want to naysay the law, and express fear that an officer may choose to BREAK that law-now THAT would be "giving your opinion."

    So, I take it you are a practicing attorney?
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    Nightwatch

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    One is also naive if one thinks a school board will support an employee if they get in trouble with the law (right or wrong). It's easier and much more expedient for school personnel, admin. and board members to distance themselves from issues.

    Once the OP has a written permission from the school administration on school letterhead-he needs no more support. They can't "distance themselves" from a letter that will be introduced into evidence as proof that the OP was within the law. You can't "unwrite" a permission letter.

    It's not naive to expect that law enforcement follow the law as we follow the law-it happens every day.
    There's just no justification for the "they'll get you anyways attitude."
     

    Charlie

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    I didn't give advice. I pointed the OP to the law, and he chose to follow it.
    Not true in my opinion.

    "...Once the OP has a written permission from the school administration on school letterhead-he needs no more support. They can't "distance themselves" from a letter that will be introduced into evidence as proof that the OP was within the law. You can't "unwrite" a permission letter."

    Sounds like an opinion to me.
     

    Hoji

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    Carrying a copy of the LTC handbook with the current law in it might be a good idea, but a supervisor would correct any mistake on an officer's part-or there would be a suit for false arrest and that doesn't happen often in Texas, where our officers can read.

    Ask MateFrio how well having a copy of the law worked out for him.
     

    Nightwatch

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    The fact that once in awhile someone gets into trouble even though he's following the law doesn't mean that when an OP asks how to handle something, you don't encourage him to follow the law as it is written...which is what I did, and what happens every day here. If you are ever falsely arrested, there is recourse in the court.
    Jumping up making what-if statements that strike fear into the OP's inquiring heart don't help him or anyone else reading the thread. One experience by one member in the long ago doesn't mean we don't follow the current law as written and trust that that will keep us out of trouble. Somewhere a school district is looking for their red pen.
     

    Nightwatch

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    That would be a mindset we could apply to any law we keep anywhere...most people won't live in fear that they'll get into trouble while carefully obeying the written laws...or we'd have chaos.
     

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    So in re-reading the 46.03 penal code I find that if I worked for a college and transported my firearm with me I would be legal.

    But seeing as I work for a public high school it's a different matter.

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    As far as colleges go, you would need to check with the rules of that specific college, mine will not allow it.
     

    Kar98

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    Yeah, like we don't know that you wrote it...

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    Hoji

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    The fact that once in awhile someone gets into trouble even though he's following the law doesn't mean that when an OP asks how to handle something, you don't encourage him to follow the law as it is written...which is what I did, and what happens every day here. If you are ever falsely arrested, there is recourse in the court.
    Jumping up making what-if statements that strike fear into the OP's inquiring heart don't help him or anyone else reading the thread. One experience by one member in the long ago doesn't mean we don't follow the current law as written and trust that that will keep us out of trouble. Somewhere a school district is looking for their red pen.
    Not exactly. MateFrio had his case dismissed, but was still on the hook for $5000 in lawyer fees.
     

    Inarus

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    As far as colleges go, you would need to check with the rules of that specific college, mine will not allow it.
    As far as legally, however, I think you're allowed. By law. But you could get fired if the college found out.

    Its very similar to the employee carrying in their vehicle on school grounds (not colleges). Legally you're allowed to, but employees can be fired for violation of district policy.

    Thankfully that will change Sep. 1.

    Guess it's time to talk to my rep again and ask that "passenger vehicles" be changed to "any vehicle in the act of transporting a student" allowing me to carry in cases where I'm going in a school vehicle but not transporting kids.

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    Nightwatch

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    Not exactly. MateFrio had his case dismissed, but was still on the hook for $5000 in lawyer fees.


    I've been looking for what you're talking about and haven't found it yet. I'd like to read all about it.
    One case doesn't change the truth that the way the system works the great majority of the time is that we read the law, we follow the law, any LEOs we come in contact with also read and follow the law, and we're not in fear that we might "take the ride" anyways. That's the function of the law.

    Using what might happen in spite of our following the law is not a valid argument. If it was, we'd all live in fear and run from shadows.

    On the RARE occasion when an LEO doesn't know or follow the law and makes a bad arrest, the system has steps in place wherein that error can be corrected, including, if the arrested person wishes, civil suit for damages. That's why most of our LEOs in Texas are professional and don't make false arrests.
     
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