Humane .223 Bullets for Hog Killing?

ROGER4314 · Apr 18, 2017

On the east side of Houston, the correct answer to the OP question is: .300 Blackout or .458 Socom. The result is "dead right there."

Flash

cesar medina · Apr 19, 2017

Any bullet is deadly with proper shot placement. Hogs have started to tear up my land(kind of been wait for them). I have dropped a hog with 223 federal fusion with a shoulder shot. Drt. About 150 lbs. 223, to me as a capable cartridge. Some hogs take more than one, they'll be just as dead and not a whole lot of meat is gone. Most of my shots are from 50-10 yrds, but sometimes 200yds, depend where they are that day. Decided to build an 300blk sbr to compensate for not perfect shots, there are too many running to wait for the "perfect" shot.

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APynckel · Apr 19, 2017

ROGER4314 said:
On the east side of Houston, the correct answer to the OP question is: .300 Blackout or .458 Socom. The result is "dead right there."

Flash

What pills with 300blk? I've got a bunch of 110 barnes, but they don't work the best with the can running 2200 fps.

HKShooter65 · Apr 19, 2017

Your "humane" concern is commendable.

While I hate the beasts and they are tearing our place up I still hate to hear them scream and hate worse to see one run off wounded.

Shot placement is everything.

Head/neck shots with just about any .223 round will do well.

For torso shots due to distance or unstable rests I'd really go with a bigger caliber.
My last one Friday was to the neck with a .338 Lapua pushing a 250gr Sierra Game king. She ran about 0.1 feet and dropped.

APynckel · Apr 19, 2017

Most of my rifles are capable of doing sub MOA groups, repeatably. I just worry about 55gr vmax splintering off too quickly to do enough permanent damage to the nervous system with a neck / dome shot.

My last pig I dropped with a .45-70 to the grey matter. It fell and kicked. Insta lights out. That rifle is not a 100+ yard tack driver though.

atticus finch · Apr 19, 2017

Speer 70 grain spitzer softpoint, it is very effective.

I don't know if these are available in a commercial loading, I use them in my own reloads.

They are effective....

HKShooter65 · Apr 19, 2017

APynckel said:
Most of my rifles are capable of doing sub MOA groups, repeatably. .

I wish I could say that about all or even most of my shooting positions.
My last shot with that .338 was using a cedar tree as a lean-to while shouldering an 18 lb. rifle whilst trying to get a cheek weld with large ear muffs askew!!

APynckel · Apr 19, 2017

That's why I don't use large over the ear protection. Plugs if no muzzle device, or just a suppressor.

ROGER4314 · Apr 19, 2017

.300 BLK rounds designed for subsonic velocities run around 220 or 240 grains. It's important to avoid reducing powder charges behind light bullets to provide subsonic velocities. That's a sure way to stick squibs in the barrel! I don't use cans so my favorite loads for the 300 BLK are 150 grain bullets. My friends all seem to use silencers. The 300 grain bullets leave the muzzle at 1900 to 2000 ft/sec. The bullets were selected because they are my favorites in other 30 caliber rifles.

In .458 Socom, I use 300 grain bullets. I was fed up with .458 Socom bullets that cost $1-2 EACH! The projectiles for the 45-70 are perfect at 300 grains and I get them for less than 25 cents each! They launch at about 1600 ft/sec.

Subsonic loads for .458 Socom use 500 grain bullets and again, don't attempt to launch light bullets with tiny powder charges to provide subsonic velocities!

The Lyman #50 manual gives good information on .300 BLK and .458 Socom loads. I recommend the Lyman #50 and all of this information comes from that manual.

Flash

satx78247 · Jun 3, 2017

APynckel,

ImVho, there is NO suitable 5.56 NATO/.223 Remington round for LARGE hogs. = Otoh, even a .22 Hornet is quite suitable for the "wee piggies" to say 60# field-dressed weight.

My favorite "hog rifle" is my Remington Model 760 pump-gun in .300 Savage, with 180 grain JSP. = FAST 2nd-4th shots, accurate, plenty powerful for the BIG boars out to 150+ Meters & without punishing recoil.
(Obviously any more powerful cartridge like the .270WCF, 7.62x51/.308 WCF, .30-06 or even the .35 Whelen are eminently suitable.)

just my OPINION, satx

Vaquero · Jun 3, 2017

Sounds like everyone is wanting a 30-30.

satx78247 · Jun 3, 2017

Vaquero,

Fwiw, my GCCB load is "quite like" the .30-30 & a near "ballistic twin" of the S-A War version of the .30-40 Krag.
(A dear friend looked at my "load data" for the .300 Savage GCCB load & said, "Congratulations on re-inventing the .30-30WCF.")

yours, satx

Hogger · Jul 19, 2017

The Barnes 62 or 70 TSX would probably be the best. Definitely no hollow points or varmint bullets. Seems like a lot of people are buying 6.8s to shoot hogs.

ed308 · Jul 19, 2017

Hogger said:
Seems like a lot of people are buying 6.8s to shoot hogs.

The 6.8 is the perfect hunting caliber IMO. 120 gr SST, Accubond, Fusion, 90 gr Gold Dot and the list goes on. I read where people are using the 6.8 to take rams out to 400 yards. Impressive for a lightweight hunting AR.

ROGER4314 · Jul 21, 2017

I learned that lesson from two friends who went out to shoot hogs. The plan was to shoot them in the heart with a 300 BLK. The plan went south, the pig ran off, so away they went following a massive blood trail. Their light went out, they had no food or water and they got totally lost, so they spent all night in the woods.

For me, the answer to your OP question is 45-70 placed behind the ear. They won't go anywhere.

Flash

APynckel · Jul 21, 2017

Yea, I know, but that's not the premise behind the thread. I've got a guide gun, but sometimes it's not the most practical.

ed308 · Jul 21, 2017

APynckel said:
This will be mostly for harvesting, so don't want them running off for buzzard / coyote food.
Thanks in advance

Take a larger caliber. There's a reason why some calibers are banned for hunting in some startes. Bigger bullets = bigger holes. Smaller ain't better until it's large enough to humanly harvest the animal.

satx78247 · Jul 21, 2017

ed308,

YEP. = For BIG boars, make mine the Model 760 Remington in 9.3x62mm Mauser with 286 grain Privi Partizan JHP & "quit chasing wounded hogs". = One halfway decent shot for GYD.
(A friend of mine did the "Texas heart Shot" on a BIG Zebra stallion at about 150M in 2015. = In the rear & out the chest, dead right there.)

In addition, big pigs are excellent practice for elk/bear/caribou hunting.

just my OPINION, satx

ROGER4314 · Jul 22, 2017

East Texans recognize the sporting aspect of killing wild hogs but we actually use these animals to feed our families! Stumbling around in the dark, looking for a wounded pig makes little sense. Shoot the animal, drop it in its tracks and use your time to prepare it for the table.

Flash

satx78247 · Jul 22, 2017

ROGER4314 said:
East Texans recognize the sporting aspect of killing wild hogs but we actually use these animals to feed our families! Stumbling around in the dark, looking for a wounded pig makes little sense. Shoot the animal, drop it in its tracks and use your time to prepare it for the table.

Flash

Roger4314,

As I'm from Camp County, I agree 100%. = I've cooked lots of feral pigs to 100# or so on my "wet smoke pit".

yours, satx

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