When to help cops in trouble.

Mikewood · Jul 26, 2017

You might know Mike the cop from YouTube. He's got some really good advice today on when to help a cop in trouble.

Kar98 · Jul 26, 2017

Too long, didn't watch. Roll down the window as I drive by and yell "66 in a 45, my ass!"

majormadmax · Jul 26, 2017

Essentially, he breaks the potential scenarios down to three...

1. When an officer asks for your help
2. When it appears an officer needs help, but ask first
3. Life and death (i.e. extreme) situations

Remember, 'Mike the Cop' is not 'Mike the Lawyer;' while I 100% concur that citizens should help the police any chance they can, it's important to remember that you can be held liable for any actions you take during such situations.

I also don't necessarily agree with his comments concerning people filming such situations. First, it's their right; but also consider that such video evidence could be very useful and not everyone that is doing so has the capacity to step in and render useful aid.

Mikewood · Jul 26, 2017

I thought what he meant about the filming was if the cop is getting his face stomped in he doesn't need you to video it as much as he needs your help.

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majormadmax · Jul 26, 2017

Mikewood said:
I thought what he meant about the filming was if the cop is getting his face stomped in he doesn't need you to video it as much as he needs your help.

I understand that, but if the person videotaping is a 13-yr-old girl weighing 98 pounds, what good is she going to do?

My point was in some cases, the video may actually be more useful that certain individual's involvement.

ZX9RCAM · Jul 26, 2017

majormadmax said:
Essentially, he breaks the potential scenarios down to three...

1. When an officer asks for your help
2. When it appears an officer needs help, but ask first
3. Life and death (i.e. extreme) situations

Remember, 'Mike the Cop' is not 'Mike the Lawyer;' while I 100% concur that citizens should help the police any chance they can, it's important to remember that you can be held liable for any actions you take during such situations.

I also don't necessarily agree with his comments concerning people filming such situations. First, it's their right; but also consider that such video evidence could be very useful and not everyone that is doing so has the capacity to step in and render useful aid.

So, the "good Samaritan" clause wouldn't help someone if they were doing the right thing?

Shady · Jul 26, 2017

If I am on the Jury and you helped bash in the face of a guy beating a cop you would start with 1 vote to acquit

easy rider · Jul 26, 2017

All depends on the situation.

motorcarman · Jul 26, 2017

If you are in Minneapolis and a guy named mohamed asks you for help.......... RUN AWAY!!!!!!!!!!

ZX9RCAM · Jul 26, 2017

Well you know, she did exactly what he said not to do.
She came up from behind and startled them by banging on the window.

majormadmax · Jul 26, 2017

ZX9RCAM said:
So, the "good Samaritan" clause wouldn't help someone if they were doing the right thing?

No, the Texas Good Samaritan Law as defined by the Texas Civil Practice and Remedies Code §74.152. Unlicensed Medical Personnel addresses "persons not licensed or certified in the healing arts who in good faith administer emergency care as emergency medical service personnel are not liable in civil damages for an act performed in administering the care unless the act is wilfully or wantonly negligent. This section applies without regard to whether the care is provided for or in expectation of remuneration."

Source: http://codes.findlaw.com/tx/civil-practice-and-remedies-code/civ-prac-rem-sect-74-152.html

Koinonia · Jul 26, 2017

I believe txi will chime in, but if the Officer requests, orders your help; or accepta your offer of help, you would then be covered under some clause that protects the officer as one who was acting under the direction of a peace officer?

txinvestigator · Jul 27, 2017

Chapter 9 of the penal code has a couple of sections that would cover you in the event you used force or deadly force to protect a third party.

busykngt · Jul 30, 2017

I believe the individual decision as to whether to help a cop or not is strongly shaped & influenced by that individual's past experiences with the police. Let's just say, in my case, I got a kick out of Kar98's posting.
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Mikewood · Jul 30, 2017

I am not saying there are not bad cops but most cops are not bad. Every time I have needed help a cop showed up to help me. sometimes when I did wrong a cop showed up and most of those times it went well for me. Your mileage might vary but if a guy who will come to your house at 2:00 AM and search it looking for a robber and maybe take a bullet for. You is dying on the curb and all you can do it think about that time you got a sour deal then shake on you.

This is a video on how to help if you can help. If you can't then no hard feelings. But damn, watching a guy die and laughing about it and not helping is sick.

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BRD@66 · Jul 30, 2017

Lighten up Francis.

sylvirfoxx · Aug 1, 2017

I can't say I found the video particularly helpful considering how long it was. Everything he said seemed pretty obvious. He could have included some of the potential consequences (especially legal) of helping in that kind of situation and how to avoid them. That would have been good. Wasn't bad, but it could have been better.

shellslinger · Aug 1, 2017

Just wanted to put this out there, under Code of Criminal Procedure 2.14 and 2.15. It's a good read.

TreyG-20 · Aug 2, 2017

Mikewood said:
if a guy who will come to your house at 2:00 AM and search it looking for a robber and maybe take a bullet for. You i

Come to your house at 2:00am only if you called around 10pm. Seriously police response time is horrid at best. My neighbors door was kicked in a few years ago and she and her young child called the police from the safety of my place not knowing if the prep was still in the house. It took a little over 3 hours for a unit to show up. The station is less than 10 minutes away.

busykngt · Aug 2, 2017

Trey, did SHE wind up arrested for anything? Personally, I would call the cops only as a last resort (and then, I'm not sure I would). I don't really need them showing up to "just take a report". And if I'm *ever* involved in a LTC/CHL incident, they get my name, my LTC and my statement, "I was in fear for my life. I have nothing else to say until I have my attorney present." And then I shut the puck up. I'm obviously of the belief there are "bad cops".... I just happen to believe the percentage is A LOT higher than most like to quote. IMHO, there's a darn good chance of *any* interfacing with the men and women in blue, standing a very good chance of not ending well for the citizen. To "serve & protect".... well maybe, a looong time ago, in a galaxy far, far away. While I won't necessarily make a carte blanche statement that I would never help a cop in trouble, I can say, the odds are against it. I perceive there's much more downside risk than there is anything positive coming out of it. Cops are on the dole, whether it's their salary at taxpayer expense or overt corruption - they generally don't have my inherent trust that's given to most folks I interface with on a daily basis.
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