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    "AND THE NO.1 THING A HOG HUNTER DOESNT WANT TO find after shooting at a hog?" A DEAD COW!

    We found one. It had been dead for a day. It was bloated, stiff, starting to smell of decay. The buzzards had started on it. It had a bullet hole in its stomach. I took pictures and texted them to the landowner. I obviously did not want to get blamed in any way for killing someone's cow.

    Even if you know that you did not shoot it, when you walk up and find a dead cow in the thermal and the I2, it certainly creates moments of self-doubt and a review of everything you just did and identified as a target.

    In this case, some shooters had been using the range the day before. Apparently one of them managed to miss the berm. Either by shooting over it, or under and skipping around over the berm. Or maybe the cows where on the Range and they thought they were shooting around them. We do not know.

    The fact is, it does not matter. Someone shooting on the Range did not or was not aware of where their bullets were going.

    As a shooter, we are responsible for ensuring that our projectiles do not leave the range. When hunting, we are charged with the responsibility of ensuring that the area behind the Target animal is clear of friendly animals.

    Too many times I see people shooting over water and skipping rounds off of the water not realizing that they are landing Somewhere over the berm and out of the range property. I've also seen people shoot over the berm.

    As a Hog Hunter, I often hunt in mixed environments. I am always finding deer with the Hogs. I often I'm hunting in areas that have cattle and caps mixed in with the Hogs and the deer. It is very easy to get focused on the pegs and not adequately assess the environment that is down range of the pigs. If a projectile fully penetrates the pig it will be going somewhere. You certainly do not want it to go into a cow or deer behind the pig.

    Target identification is also a problem. Hogs, deer and cows that are laying down or feeding with thier heads down, often look a lot alike when you first see them in the night vision or thermal units. We are legally responsible for knowing what are Target's are and probably identifying them.

    Legally, we are responsible for the damage of those projectiles do. We as the shooting Community must keep that in mind while we are practicing our Sport and exercising our 2nd Amendment rights.

    Let's face it, we do not want to be this guy who is getting a call from the landowner and a bill for a dead cow. Not only is it expensive, but you almost certainly will not be invited back to shoot and hunt on the landowners property.
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    SC-Texas

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    I'm really annoyed at this because if we hadn't done such a thorough job of covering that area looking for Hogs, we could have been blamed for this on Saturday.

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    It happens more on flat ground leases than hilly ones. We always tried to setup stands that shot into things like bluffs and draws and not along a pasture or into some scrub brush just past the feeder. Setting up a good stand it harder than you think. Shame about the cow. Looked to be a nice one.


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    robertc1024

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    A bad situation for y'all, no doubt. I've got a buddy at work that had a cow killed similarly - piggy hunters on the neighboring property.
     

    Moonpie

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    Gunz are icky.
    Suck it up and offer to pay for the cow?
    Try to make it good.
    Landowner might go thermonuclear if no one steps forward.
     

    Hoji

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    Thanks for posting this thread.

    I suspect it will be linked to the next time someone comes in bitching about not being able to hunt hogs for free.
     

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    I heard a rumor that a few dead horse were found on an ajacent property with .50 bmg in them after a Leona shoot a few years back.
    Neither confirming not denying. But people must be careful.

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    And here we are. I posted this on August 21 and look what popped up in the news.

    Know your target! Positive ID of your target is an absolute necessity. This women was using an ATN.
    Use good quality Thermal along with I2 and use your head.
    The video should be available by a FOIA request. I would like to see it. I also want to know what unit she was using.
    I have posted about this before. Positive ID of your target is required before you shoot.
    "Investigators said they have seen the recording. They said an outline of something on all fours is seen in the recording.
    Investigators said Young was shot in the face."
    Failure to positively ID the target combined with the use of inferior equipment resulted in this mans death
    Anyone want to bet its a cheap low res thermal? It was reported be an ATN optic. No word on the model.

    http://www.wyff4.com/article/shot-t...-by-womans-firearm-investigators-say/12239667
     

    oldag

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    Reminds me of the story of the guy who took his wife hunting for the first time.

    Leaves her in the deer stand and goes to his stand. After about an hour, hears a shot and then shouting. Heads over to her stand. A range hand, with his hands over his head, is standing over his dead horse, saying "All right, all right, lady. He's your deer. But would you at least let me get my saddle off him??"
     
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