The "Gun Safes Are Not Safes & Not Worth It" Argument

Charlie · Aug 16, 2017

Thieves would have to move tons of boxes (full), tools, benches, books, clothes, etc., etc. just to get to my safe. I've been trying to move this crap out for years but with two daughters moving around the state and country, and a wife that's never thrown anything away, I feel very comfortable that thieves couldn't even find my safe, much less steal it! Plus, I have guard cats on constant watch. :green:

pronstar · Aug 17, 2017

Charlie said:
Thieves would have to move tons of boxes (full), tools, benches, books, clothes, etc., etc. just to get to my safe. I've been trying to move this crap out for years but with two daughters moving around the state and country, and a wife that's never thrown anything away, I feel very comfortable that thieves couldn't even find my safe, much less steal it! Plus, I have guard cats on constant watch.

In your situation, it sounds like you don't even need a safe Lol

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Charlie · Aug 18, 2017

Probably not, except there is some of the ladies jewelry in there also! :green:

shooter60 · Aug 18, 2017

I got my safe to keep all the young ones fromm getting into my guns and also keep important papers in it

Charlie · Aug 18, 2017

shooter60 said:
I got my safe to keep all the young ones fromm getting into my guns and also keep important papers in it

Yep!

pronstar · Aug 18, 2017

Charlie said:
Yep!

What choo takin' 'bout Willis?

You've got an impenetrable Ninja Warrior course to get thru before you can even get to your safe LOL

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Armybrat · Aug 21, 2017

lonestardiver said:
The large safe in the corner of the living room makes a lasting impression on the potential suitors attempting to court my daughters...it starts with that "Oh shit" face.

Not necessary to put your safe on display in the living room. Just be cleaning your Glock/1911/Sig/CZ/shotgun/AR on the dining room table whenever a suitor arrives to pick up your daughter.

AustinN4 · Aug 21, 2017

Armybrat said:
Not necessary to put your safe on display in the living room. Just be cleaning your Glock/1911/Sig/CZ/shotgun/AR on the dining room table whenever a suitor arrives to pick up your daughter.

Or loading magazines from a 1,000 round case.

sucker76 · Aug 21, 2017

Armybrat said:
Not necessary to put your safe on display in the living room. Just be cleaning your Glock/1911/Sig/CZ/shotgun/AR on the dining room table whenever a suitor arrives to pick up your daughter.

I've thought about this but these smart ass kids today will say 'that's not loaded so no problem'. Therefore I'll have one loaded and ready when the boy comes :loaded:

(meant to be funny)

FKS · Aug 21, 2017

so for sub $1k what would you do? I have 2 HG, 1 AR and 1 shotty, plus 2k rounds at any given time?

Bozz10mm · Aug 22, 2017

FKS said:
so for sub $1k what would you do? I have 2 HG, 1 AR and 1 shotty, plus 2k rounds at any given time?

This:
http://www.academy.com/shop/Product..._rn=15832&storeId=10151#repChildCatid=4212406

AustinN4 · Aug 22, 2017

A couple of times a year, Cabella's has their house brand (made by Liberty I think) on sale at some pretty good prices.

TheDan · Aug 22, 2017

FKS said:
so for sub $1k what would you do?

Get one with the thickest metal in your budget.

Mikeinhistory · Aug 22, 2017

I know from experience no safe will keep a determined criminal out. If there is enough time any defense can be breached. I had a safe at a small business I ran years ago. Took them 12 hours of work over the weekend but they got into it.

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sucker76 · Aug 22, 2017

As far as buying a safe I would look for sales and always over buy and get the biggest volume, thickest steel safe you can afford.

pronstar · Aug 22, 2017

You can free up space by not storing ammo in your safe

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Southpaw · Aug 22, 2017

Mikeinhistory said:
I know from experience no safe will keep a determined criminal out. If there is enough time any defense can be breached. I had a safe at a small business I ran years ago. Took them 12 hours of work over the weekend but they got into it.

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Agreed. Without other layers of security, including real time monitoring, all RSC's and even some safes I would suppose are just a good way of gathering up everything in one convenient spot for the thief.

diesel1959 · Aug 22, 2017

FKS said:
so for sub $1k what would you do? I have 2 HG, 1 AR and 1 shotty, plus 2k rounds at any given time?

Dude. Those are rookie numbers. You gotta bump those up.

Oh, and there's no way I could store ammo in my safes--that would be unpossible. My ManRoom® has two heavy-duty shelving units full of ammo--probably comprising closer to 100,000 rounds . . . unless it all fell in a lake somewhere.

ZX9RCAM · Aug 22, 2017

diesel1959 said:
Dude. Those are rookie numbers. You gotta bump those up.

Oh, and there's no way I could store ammo in my safes--that would be unpossible. My ManRoom® has two heavy-duty shelving units full of ammo--probably comprising closer to 100,000 rounds . . . unless it all fell in a lake somewhere.

I put those shelving units in my office closet.
Until then I had NO idea how much ammo I actually had, lol.

FKS · Aug 24, 2017

diesel1959 said:
Dude. Those are rookie numbers. You gotta bump those up.

Trying - funding out of state tuition keeps my toy collection svelt.

Oh, and there's no way I could store ammo in my safes--that would be unpossible. My ManRoom® has two heavy-duty shelving units full of ammo--probably comprising closer to 100,000 rounds . . . unless it all fell in a lake somewhere.

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