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  • Txhillbilly

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    Count me in as long as I have plenty of notice on a confirmed date. Working in the oil field,I only have a weekend off every 7 weeks,but I can take a day off when I need to.
     

    Green Eye Tactical

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    Just got home from the course this weekend. Confirmed things with the manager. So if Triple C is the choice the OP can just let me know. As long as I don’t have a training course booked on the dates decided, I’m good.
     

    Biff Tannen

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    I'm good with that fee. Tell the owner we appreciate the discount.

    If I am available that weekend, I'll be there.

    Thanks for settting it up GET.
     

    Green Eye Tactical

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    I meant setting things up at the range. Pretty sweet to get a half off deal and I love trying out new ranges.

    It will be a good time. I’ll bring out my Ballistics analytics package as well. Getting good velocity data and plotting with Applied Ballistics will get you a bit more success out of the distances you see there.
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    Biff Tannen

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    I don't have experience in distances far enough out to need any of that. I've always wanted to take some classes and learn it though. I'm looking forward to going just to try and soak up some knowledge!
     

    Green Eye Tactical

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    I don't have experience in distances far enough out to need any of that. I've always wanted to take some classes and learn it though. I'm looking forward to going just to try and soak up some knowledge!

    So, the experience isn't a pre-requisite to good data collection and analysis. It is merely creating a starting point where you can control and/or account for as many variables as possible. This gives you a good platform to work on fundamentals from. Essentially fundamentals work is troubleshooting- drawing a correlation between either effect on target or what you observed through your sight movement and placement before, during and after the firing process and determining what you did behind the weapon and account for it. The more we can rule out, the simpler that process is. Most of your time spent is grouping at your zero distance, which can vary depending on the platform and application. So, if we can calculate the most effective zero distance that works for both requirements from the start- you will have fewer adjustments to true the zero at distance.

    I pretty much chalk up data collection and analysis as standard with any other pre-firing checks I perform, like checking optics mounts/ handguard/ upper and lower receiver for appropriate tightness, weapons maintenance, and serviceability, functions check, battery testing, etc. I normally collect during a 10 round slow fire warm up string so it doesn't really take much additional time. The added value is that you get to monitor your lots of ammo for consistency to make sure you're getting what you pay for and also when you record the data with the environmental conditions, you can then later start to develop a powder temp table to see how temperature will affect your velocity and what range it is most sensitive to (since the relationship isn't linear). If you are running a rifle platform with a non-scope setup (red dot or irons), you can then make intelligent decisions as to what temperature you want to zero at.
     

    TxStetson

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    So, the experience isn't a pre-requisite to good data collection and analysis. It is merely creating a starting point where you can control and/or account for as many variables as possible. This gives you a good platform to work on fundamentals from. Essentially fundamentals work is troubleshooting- drawing a correlation between either effect on target or what you observed through your sight movement and placement before, during and after the firing process and determining what you did behind the weapon and account for it. The more we can rule out, the simpler that process is. Most of your time spent is grouping at your zero distance, which can vary depending on the platform and application. So, if we can calculate the most effective zero distance that works for both requirements from the start- you will have fewer adjustments to true the zero at distance.

    I pretty much chalk up data collection and analysis as standard with any other pre-firing checks I perform, like checking optics mounts/ handguard/ upper and lower receiver for appropriate tightness, weapons maintenance, and serviceability, functions check, battery testing, etc. I normally collect during a 10 round slow fire warm up string so it doesn't really take much additional time. The added value is that you get to monitor your lots of ammo for consistency to make sure you're getting what you pay for and also when you record the data with the environmental conditions, you can then later start to develop a powder temp table to see how temperature will affect your velocity and what range it is most sensitive to (since the relationship isn't linear). If you are running a rifle platform with a non-scope setup (red dot or irons), you can then make intelligent decisions as to what temperature you want to zero at.

    I usually just look through the scope, guess at the hold over, and pull the trigger.
     
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    Younggun

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    Don't let the technical side put you off.

    Assuming I make it, you're welcome to put a few rounds through my .308. Best to get the hook set before the hard part begins, lol.

    With some basic info and a working knowledge of ballistics you can get a fair idea of where the bullet will go. Throw in a $80 chronograph, quality ammo that the rifle likes, and a little environmental data and you can get a real good idea.

    I'm running a $900 rifle with a $900 scope at to 1k. Could do the same with a $300 scope that I might like a little bit more. It doesn't have to break the bank.
     

    Biff Tannen

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    Don't let the technical side put you off.

    Assuming I make it, you're welcome to put a few rounds through my .308. Best to get the hook set before the hard part begins, lol.

    With some basic info and a working knowledge of ballistics you can get a fair idea of where the bullet will go. Throw in a $80 chronograph, quality ammo that the rifle likes, and a little environmental data and you can get a real good idea.

    I'm running a $900 rifle with a $900 scope at to 1k. Could do the same with a $300 scope that I might like a little bit more. It doesn't have to break the bank.


    Thanks! With a 900 dollar scope I'm sure you could shoot just as well with cheaper rifle. I'm all for the technical stuff. I'm a natural born science nerd anyways. I've always been a good shot but I would love to someday learn all the tech skill and maybe be able to shoot out to 1000 yards.
     

    Biff Tannen

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    Well I wouldn't chalk myself up as the ringleader of this (even though I am the one that suggested it) Is December 2nd ok with everyone?

    Oh you're the ringleader, can't get out of it now lol.

    I'm a tentative yes for that date. In other words, I have no way of knowing if I'll have to go into work that day, but if not I'll be there.
     
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