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  • JeepFiend

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    I get that the NFL and team owners are allowing it, but I still don't see it as a "right". Telling them not to do it or terminating them for doing it is not a violation of civil rights, which is what is inferred when folks say "They have a right to take a knee." No, they don't have that right. They're just not being punished for improper behavior. Huge difference.
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    oldag

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    I am willing to err on the side of perhaps an overly generous interpretation of free speech here. But if the NFL gets hurt in the pocket book, then the league and owners will correct their attitudes and this crap will stop. Then the players can comment on their own time.
     

    TheDan

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    easy rider

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    Well, you don't. Add academics, utilities, and "too big to fail" industries to that list as well. They are all on the same government teat.
    Many have been fired from academics for voicing there opinions when it doesn't follow the institutions agenda. Utilities, who cares if they take a knee? As long as it's not the one out of the six that is doing the work. Sports on the other hand depends on fans to pay the bills, and if I am the fan I take it as spitting in my face if they are taking a knee while I stand. I can live without the NFL, I'll just use pictures of those ungrateful players as targets and shoot instead.
     

    TexasBrandon

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    I'm surprised anyone actually watches the NFL anymore. I stopped many years ago when the BS began with some of the players and the games. Only thing I have a TV for is my roku box so I can watch reruns of old TV series that I like. Eff Hollywood, Eff the NFL, and eff the NBA. I like guns, computer games, 4 wheeling, and being outside to do stuff.
     

    TheDan

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    Many have been fired from academics for voicing there opinions when it doesn't follow the institutions agenda. Utilities, who cares if they take a knee? As long as it's not the one out of the six that is doing the work. Sports on the other hand depends on fans to pay the bills, and if I am the fan I take it as spitting in my face if they are taking a knee while I stand. I can live without the NFL, I'll just use pictures of those ungrateful players as targets and shoot instead.
    They do make a lot of money from the fans, but that isn't their only source of income. If they actually had to pay for their stadiums, and paid taxes, and didn't get all the other local and federal subsidies, then the fan's dollars would matter more.
     

    V-Tach

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    Haven't watched a single NFL play so far this year.....and won't....

    College ball......yes...
     

    zincwarrior

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    This is where I disagree. They give up their individual rights when they put on a uniform representing someone else. For example, I have have an individual right to support the confederate veterans, argue the Civil War was against more than slavery, and suggest BLM and Antifa are domestic terrorist groups. But, if I do it wearing a Texas A&M uniform, I could lose my job.

    If these men want to protest wars, protest police, or protest the president, they have the individual right to do that, and they should...on their own dime. To use the NFL as a platform while representing an organization they don't own should be an offense worthy of being terminated. Just my $0.02.
    Except the NFL is ok with it.
     

    satx78247

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    I believe that the NFL has finally/permanently "stepped on their poncho", as I don't know a single EX-GI, regardless of political opinion, who approves of "taking a knee" at games as we all see that as UTTER DISRESPECT for our flag, anthem & for our Republic.
    (I suspect that this will cost the NFL a goodly pile of fans/money.)

    Personally, I'm DISGUSTED with all of the owners/coaches/NFL officials for FAILING to stand-up for our Nation & "kow-towing to" a few overpaid, ignorant (& perhaps racist) crybabies.

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    Ozzman

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    Except the NFL is ok with it.
    For right now they are...

    My thoughts are this: Should Trump have said anything? NO! He had no business bringing the office of the presidency into the NFL in the first place. There was nothing to gain. Did he really think the teams would simply "fire" star players just because he said they should? (Don't answer that ;) ) He should have let them do as they do, and it would have faded away, but no; now it's an epidemic that is here to stay for a while.

    Get back to Football, you dumb players. The Raiders were so preoccupied what they were going to do in the pre-game yesterday that they forgot that they were suiting up for in the first place. They had a monster/fired up Redskin team ready for them in the next 20 minutes. They got their faces smashed in, and they deserved it.

    I look at my "rights" this way:
    I have a 2nd amendment right to carry a firearm just like all of you, but where I work company policy states that I cannot carry in my office. If I want to stay an employee of the engineering firm I work with, I better leave the firearm in the car. I make a choice to not carry, because I need this job. If I want to WORK HERE, then I have to abide by the rules.

    Same thing goes for my first amendment right... I cannot simply walk down the hallway of my office building cursing at everyone and everything I see. Do I have that right? I sure do, but I WILL GET FIRED.. Where do these jackoffs get off thinking their first amendment right is all inclusive at their place of work (the field)? Just play the game you Chooch. The NFL, NBA & MLB is first and foremost is a business, and player/coaches actions will cost them BIG in the long run if they don't get smart.

    I too am out.. Hopefully things change, thus maybe next year.
     
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    Except the NFL is ok with it.

    Right, but as I said in the following post...allowing poor behavior does not inherently make it a right. Their right is to free speech, but that doesn't mean a right to free speech without consequence. Imprisoning them for their protest would be violation of their rights. Firing them is just standard protocol for a company. And this weekend, it was all about someone exercising their right to say those that kneel should be fired.

    So now we're justifying a 1st amendment right to suppress a 1st amendment right....color me funny, but sounds a lot like antifa.
     

    TheDan

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    My thoughts are this: Should Trump have said anything? NO! He had no business bringing the office of the presidency into the NFL in the first place.
    Why not? The NFL is highly political. It enjoys exemption from anti-trust laws and takes plenty of taxpayer money.
     

    easy rider

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    For right now they are...

    My thoughts are this: Should Trump have said anything? NO! He had no business bringing the office of the presidency into the NFL in the first place. There was nothing to gain. Did he really think the teams would simply "fire" star players just because he said so? (Don't answer that ;) ) He should have let them do as they do, and it would have faded away, but no; now it's an epidemic that is here to stay for a while.

    Get back to Football, you dumb players. The Raiders were so preoccupied what they were going to do in the pre-game yesterday that they forgot that they were suiting up for in the first place. They had a monster/fired up Redskin team ready for them in the next 20 minutes. They got their faces smashed in, and they deserved it.

    I look at my "rights" this way:
    I have a 2nd amendment right to carry a firearm just like all of you, but where I work company policy states that I cannot carry in my office. If I want to stay an employee of the engineering firm I work with, I better leave the firearm in the car. I make a choice to not carry, because I need this job. If I want to WORK HERE, then I have to abide by the rules.

    Same thing goes for my first amendment right... I cannot simply walk down the hallway of my office building cursing at everyone and everything I see. Do I have that right? I sure do, but I WILL GET FIRED.. Where do these jackoffs get off thinking their first amendment right is all inclusive at their place of work (the field)? Just play the game you Chooch. The NFL, NBA & MLB is first and foremost is a business, and player/coaches actions will cost them BIG in the long run if they don't get smart.

    I too am out.. Hopefully things change, thus maybe next year.

    Trump had an hour and twenty minute speech and the media focused on about two minutes of it in which he expressed his thoughts on NFL head injuries which led him to the kneeling during the National Anthem. Did he say they had to fire them? No, he said they should. He gave an opinion on something that was not just one person anymore, but several others in more than just one sport. The speech was an Alabama rally to a room full of conservatives, not a news conference.
     

    easy rider

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    Right...
    Isn't that what I said?
    Should he have said it? Why not? It was growing, it wasn't really going away. Plus, what he said was at a rally and at a rally you say things to fire up the people you are rallying for. So yes, what he said was appropriate for the crowd he was saying it to.
     

    zincwarrior

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    Should he have said it? Why not? It was growing, it wasn't really going away. Plus, what he said was at a rally and at a rally you say things to fire up the people you are rallying for. So yes, what he said was appropriate for the crowd he was saying it to.
    He should focus on the duties of his office. But again this is a distraction to cover for the failure of the Obamacare Reformation, coming two hours after McCain said no.
     

    AustinN4

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    Plus, what he said was at a rally and at a rally you say things to fire up the people you are rallying for.
    Whatever he says, and where ever he says it (unless it is bedroom talk with Melia) will be picked apart and reported by the press. Sometimes, a lot of times really, I wish he would just keep his mouth and twitter fingers shut!
     
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