Snubbie .38 vs .380?

skfullgun · Nov 17, 2017

I tried that trigger sheath and did not care for it AT ALL. What do you do, hook the lanyard around your belt and then have to WHIP it out rapidly enough to rip that thing off the trigger? Or, does it require using both hands - one to hold the firearm and the other to pull the string? Maybe it's just me, but no workie for me.

grasshopperglock · Nov 17, 2017

I couldn't do it either. Pocket holster, that'd be ok. But not that thing.

skfullgun · Nov 17, 2017

I should have said Barami Hip Grip. The Clip Draw is a similar concept.

45tex · Nov 17, 2017

I comfortably carry a 637(because I like the option of a hammer) in a Fobus paddle or a Alein Gear IWB. Have always enjoyed shooting and like the J Frame.

skfullgun · Nov 17, 2017

I carry a 638 set up just like this:

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HKShooter65 · Nov 17, 2017

We are messing with the perennial (or is it perineal) debate.

SA v revolver

I have far more semi-autos than revolvers.
With that said.....
Were I forced to choose one carry gun to serve me till the day I die.

It'd be a S&W snubbie.

Final answer.
No more debate allowed.

Younggun · Nov 17, 2017

That's a terrible choice.

skfullgun · Nov 17, 2017

I would probably make the same choice for a S&W snubbie. My biggest concern has always been capacity.

Don't laugh, but at times, I've carried TWO! A RE-gun is much faster than a RE-load!

oldag · Nov 17, 2017

I carry either a Sig 1911 Ultra in .45 or a GI 1911 CCO in .45. Small enough, but still a very good caliber.

If you need tiny, look at a Kahr Mk40 in .40. Nice shooting little gun in a decent caliber.

skfullgun · Nov 17, 2017

Younggun said:
That's a terrible choice.

It's a WONDERFUL choice!

skfullgun · Nov 17, 2017

Remember, the .38 has been SPECIAL since 1898! Now that is historical.

cb51 · Nov 18, 2017

45tex said:
I comfortably carry a 637(because I like the option of a hammer) in a Fobus paddle or a Alein Gear IWB. Have always enjoyed shooting and like the J Frame.

I'm curious, why would you feel the need for having the hammer option in a self defense handgun? Would the possibility of the hammer snagging be worth it?

Charlie · Nov 18, 2017

Probably a very small chance of a hammer snagging while drawing out of a holster, just my opinion.

45tex · Nov 18, 2017

If you are not competent with the weapon you choose you should choose another weapon. Bought my first J frame in 1985, a hammerless 640. Hated it. Got a hammer model and liked it. As to an emergency situation, should I put distance between me and an attacker but still feel need to fire, I will aim and use single action as the situation dictates. (Reasons, BG is still in pursuit, BG is better armed, I am unable to flee beyond. again it the situation)
Have spent many a good day shooting a snubby at distances many consider too far. It's a lot of fun pushing the limits. For a 15 yard plus shot I'll take a single action trigger anytime. If it's what the situation allows, and I like having another option.

45tex · Nov 18, 2017

Texas law allows a Peace office to create the apprehension that deadly force will be used in a situation where it may not be legal. (or at least it did in the 90's.) I.E. I'm gonna shoot your ass if you move. Had a long argument with instructor during academy about this subject. So it stuck with me.
Something that can be done to make a point with a hammer gun is the cocking of the gun. It's like the sound of a Remington 870 being racked. A real attention grabber. I did this only once when I was struggling with a suspect. Took the last of the fight right out of him. Might have cost me the rest of my life, and did cause some sleepless nights, to come that close. My supervisor said he took notice of my finger not on the trigger, and that the choice was a good one. It's just something in the bag of tricks from yesteryear. And no, in 25 years I never shot or came closer to shooting than that warm Sunday morning.

skfullgun · Nov 18, 2017

cb51 said:
I'm curious, why would you feel the need for having the hammer option in a self defense handgun? Would the possibility of the hammer snagging be worth it?

I like the responses and agree. Also great for a head shot on the bad guy in a hostage situation.

oldag · Nov 19, 2017

45tex said:
Texas law allows a Peace office to create the apprehension that deadly force will be used in a situation where it may not be legal. (or at least it did in the 90's.) I.E. I'm gonna shoot your ass if you move. Had a long argument with instructor during academy about this subject. So it stuck with me.
Something that can be done to make a point with a hammer gun is the cocking of the gun. It's like the sound of a Remington 870 being racked. A real attention grabber. I did this only once when I was struggling with a suspect. Took the last of the fight right out of him. Might have cost me the rest of my life, and did cause some sleepless nights, to come that close. My supervisor said he took notice of my finger not on the trigger, and that the choice was a good one. It's just something in the bag of tricks from yesteryear. And no, in 25 years I never shot or came closer to shooting than that warm Sunday morning.

I would not recommend that for citizens.

txinvestigator · Nov 19, 2017

45tex said:
Texas law allows a Peace office to create the apprehension that deadly force will be used in a situation where it may not be legal. (or at least it did in the 90's.) I.E. I'm gonna shoot your ass if you move. Had a long argument with instructor during academy about this subject. So it stuck with me.

Actually, your are referring to 9.04 of the penal code, and it applies to everyone.

Sec. 9.04. THREATS AS JUSTIFIABLE FORCE. The threat of force is justified when the use of force is justified by this chapter. For purposes of this section, a threat to cause death or serious bodily injury by the production of a weapon or otherwise, as long as the actor's purpose is limited to creating an apprehension that he will use deadly force if necessary, does not constitute the use of deadly force.

That means drawing down on someone when you are doing it simply to create the apprehension that you'll use deadly force if necessary force, isn't in and of itself deadly force.

Something that can be done to make a point with a hammer gun is the cocking of the gun. It's like the sound of a Remington 870 being racked. A real attention grabber. I did this only once when I was struggling with a suspect. Took the last of the fight right out of him. Might have cost me the rest of my life, and did cause some sleepless nights, to come that close. My supervisor said he took notice of my finger not on the trigger, and that the choice was a good one. It's just something in the bag of tricks from yesteryear. And no, in 25 years I never shot or came closer to shooting than that warm Sunday morning.

Anecdotal stories aside, cocking a hammer fired gun to "make a point" is not really a valid tactical method. That said, I would cock a revolver or hammer-fired semi-auto if I needed to make a precision shot with the time to do so, but never to scare someone.

Glad it worked for you and you survived, and if you survived that tactic was, in that moment, perfect.

Charley · Nov 19, 2017

S&W J frames and similar revolvers are among the most popular carry guns. I'm a small time holster maker, maybe 25-30 a month, and I sell more concealment holsters for J frames (and LCRS) than any other design.

txinvestigator · Nov 19, 2017

Charley said:
S&W J frames and similar revolvers are among the most popular carry guns. I'm a small time holster maker, maybe 25-30 a month, and I sell more concealment holsters for J frames (and LCRS) than any other design.

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