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  • Younggun

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    I say air it out.

    These people are supposed to be insuring the rights of citizens and equal treatment under the law. They are intrusted with these duties and swear to uphold them.

    I don't believe they deserve any special treatment or protections. In fact, my opinion is that when entrusted with such duties, any attempt to corrupt should be broadcast and made public to anyone and everyone. No sealed testimony, no closed hearings.
     

    Lunyfringe

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    She gets plenty of protection from the public if she's in prison, right?
    I'm good with that... seems like a fair solution for her and her cronies.

    From the article: "Lerner and Paz pointed to comments from Tea Party leader Mark Meckler that the lawsuit would “treat the IRS like the criminal thugs they are.” "
    That's how I read that... if they're criminal thugs, I'd expect they would be arrested and thrown in prison...

    did they get pardoned, or just not prosecuted? what's the statute of limitations?
     

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    Court documents, reviewed by Fox News, said the “public dissemination of their deposition testimony would expose them and their families to harassment and a credible risk of violence and physical harm.”

    No, their actions that brought on such a deposition exposed them and their families to harassment and harm.
     

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    If I sat in judgement of Ms Lerner, she’d get several very fair choices: 1) hemp or nylon? Or 2) .308 or 30-06? Or 3) Arsenic or Cyanide? [Depending upon her own preferred method, of course]
     
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    One set of rules for them. One set of rules for us

    And this is why there are so many stupid laws to protect the guilty. Some politician, or friend/family of, gets into trouble, they pass laws to keep them from going to jail. This is what happens when you only think of yourself, later down the road, that law would be able to allow certain criminals to go free, then have to keep amending the law cause of one irrational idiot.

    Don't think it's two sets of rules, just politicians are rich enough to bribe the right people to let stuff slide. And this is the real problem, corruption within the ranks.
     

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    Of course Lerner fears physical harm and thinks the public is enraged, we are. Maybe she should not have been BHO’s *itch and actually ran a federal agency within the confines of the law.


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    Of course Lerner fears physical harm and thinks the public is enraged, we are. Maybe she should not have been BHO’s *itch and actually ran a federal agency within the confines of the law.
    Well, she didn't "run" the agency but you make one of the first valid points in this thread.

    She was running her department within the confines of the law...because she got told what the law was by the attorneys who had oversight over the program. The reason that problems like this didn't happen 30 years ago was that the IRS had their own attorneys, fully insulated from any political pressure. They would not hesitate to tell Justice to take a long walk off a short pier if the DOJ tried to interfere in in-house procedures.

    BHO, however, finalized the process of removing all the lawyers from the IRS. They now work for the DOJ where they are subject to political pressure, pressure they brought to bear on Lerner's work processes. In fact, they stuck their noses way, way into the basic workings of the program, micromanaging parts of it by requiring reviews of several processes that were, frankly, none of their business.

    Lerner was caught in the middle. The right thing to do would have been to resign but when you work for the IRS you trade a lifetime of substandard pay for a decent retirement pension. (I believe Lerner was a CSRS employee, not a FERS employee.) However bad that decision was in retrospect, I can understand why she stuck it out for a few years longer than was prudent.

    I don't blame her for wanting protection; she may well need it, just for doing the job that the BHO-influenced DOJ lawyers forced her to do.
     

    Charlie Primero

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    just for doing the job that the BHO-influenced DOJ lawyers forced her to do.
    In the past I worked for both the Federal Government and the State of Texas.

    The old "I was just doing illegal crap because my bosses demanded it" excuse does not fly. I have testified as an expert witness to help prosecute people attempting that defense. It's immoral, and it doesn't work.
     
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