Diagnose my POI
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Childhood accident injured my "right-eye" - so same situation w/ me (right handed, left eyed) Took years to get my dominance shifted over to my left eye while the injured right was still dominant, being taught "both eyes" open - my groups looked exactly opposite to yours - all on the right.
Try closing your right eye and see if your POI shifts. ("if" ya shoot with both eyes open).
Try closing your right eye and see if your POI shifts. ("if" ya shoot with both eyes open).
Anticipating "some" recoil. Not all of it.
Improper grip. That's hard to explain, but easy to show , in person.
Your left hand needs more purchase in your grip.
Roll your right hand counter clockwise on the grip. Force the meat of your left palm onto 1/4 of the backstrap of the pistol grip. Stiffen your left hand grip. Slightly loosen your right hand grip. Line up the sights and fire.
Repeat.
Just let your left hand absorb 1/3 of the recoil.
That seems to push POI just to the right and get back on target faster.
Improper grip. That's hard to explain, but easy to show , in person.
Your left hand needs more purchase in your grip.
Roll your right hand counter clockwise on the grip. Force the meat of your left palm onto 1/4 of the backstrap of the pistol grip. Stiffen your left hand grip. Slightly loosen your right hand grip. Line up the sights and fire.
Repeat.
Just let your left hand absorb 1/3 of the recoil.
That seems to push POI just to the right and get back on target faster.
RobertTheTexan
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Dry fire every night. You can go search for drills or you can just take turns aiming at different objects around your house. Simulate everything. Control breathing, be conscious of your grip. Each and every time. Trigger control. Lather rinse repeat. I do dry fire drills where I have my pistol sitting on the ottoman or bar. I focus on how the pistol fits in my grip. I mean literally every part of my hand, palm, fingers are positioned on the grip. I focus on how my support hand is gripping my firing hand and where my fingers are. I put the pistol down, pick it up and do it all over again. You’re developing muscle memory. You do it 20, 30, 40 times a night. You do it until when you pick up your pistol incorrectly, your brain fires a single “this is not right” and you correct it. This happens on a second.
I believe much of this can be resolved without you burning through range fees and ammo, or even the gas to drive to the range. Sure you still go to the range, to validate what your have accomplished and learned and memorized in dry fire training.
I may have a spare deck of dry fire training cards. I’ll look tomorrow and if I do and you want to use them, I can mail them to you.
ETA: It is imperative that you clear your weapon every single time you pick it up to dry fire. I don’t care if you used it an hour ago and it’s been in the safe. At a bank.
You open the slide and instead of looking for an empty chamber, train yourself to look for a round. If you see a round you know you are not clear. Looking for an empty chamber can potentially play at trick on your mind.
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I believe much of this can be resolved without you burning through range fees and ammo, or even the gas to drive to the range. Sure you still go to the range, to validate what your have accomplished and learned and memorized in dry fire training.
I may have a spare deck of dry fire training cards. I’ll look tomorrow and if I do and you want to use them, I can mail them to you.
ETA: It is imperative that you clear your weapon every single time you pick it up to dry fire. I don’t care if you used it an hour ago and it’s been in the safe. At a bank.
You open the slide and instead of looking for an empty chamber, train yourself to look for a round. If you see a round you know you are not clear. Looking for an empty chamber can potentially play at trick on your mind.
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My right eye, I can only see the target. Have a hard time seeing the front sight.
My dominant left eye has no such issue.
I do think my left-hand purchase needs work.
And I also know that my trigger finger is inconsistent, I start on my pad and after a few rounds I'm pulling at the first knuckle joint.
Thanks for the advice.
Lotsa work to do...
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My dominant left eye has no such issue.
I do think my left-hand purchase needs work.
And I also know that my trigger finger is inconsistent, I start on my pad and after a few rounds I'm pulling at the first knuckle joint.
Thanks for the advice.
Lotsa work to do...
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Charlie Primero
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Wildcat Diva
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Being cross eye dominant, isnt there advice on how to maneuver your pistol over closer to under your left eye vs center? YouTube searching pistol and cross eye dominance might help.
Wildcat Diva
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^^^. Bwahahaha!
Back in the days of the non - PC Marine Corps, the PMI's (primary marksmanship instructor) would call that "meatgazing" and the DI would haze you for being a "fag" for staring at the target. Very effective tool for learning how to focus on the front sight.
That and dry firing for a few days straight at one of these
Pron,
I would do everything everyone has said but when you are practicing dry firing, make sure you hang a target on the wall or somewhere and that way you can focus on training your eye while doing the rest of the fundamentals
Start shooting with your left hand.
Only half kidding. I trained my wife who's right handed/left eye dominant with the proper right-handed, two hands grip and she's really damn good, passed her LTC test 249 out of 250.
Figured it's time for something more advanced, OK, now in case you're holding a kitten or whatever in one hand and need to shoot with the other, lets do some one handed racking (I know where I'll see THAT line later) and shooting.
First with her dominant hand, then with her eye dominant side, i.e. left.
We both just about fell over laughing and gasping: tighter groups than ever before, and dead center. Not even strays.
Only half kidding. I trained my wife who's right handed/left eye dominant with the proper right-handed, two hands grip and she's really damn good, passed her LTC test 249 out of 250.
Figured it's time for something more advanced, OK, now in case you're holding a kitten or whatever in one hand and need to shoot with the other, lets do some one handed racking (I know where I'll see THAT line later) and shooting.
First with her dominant hand, then with her eye dominant side, i.e. left.
We both just about fell over laughing and gasping: tighter groups than ever before, and dead center. Not even strays.
You are correct in that you need to be consistent with trigger finger position. You can make either work, but stick to one.
You can shoot right handed but use the left eye, merely a matter of slightly altering the gun position.
As a right eye dominant leftie, I tilt/angle my head slightly to the left.
RobertTheTexan
Active Member
I use a coin balanced on my front sight to test my trigger control. At first the challenge was simply just not letting the quarter fall off while holding the pistol, but after a while (and A LOT of dropped and lost coins under the couch, I got it down.
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