Funny Picture - Video Thread III

nlam01 · Jan 15, 2018

Gross. I don't want to drive in that

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pronstar · Jan 15, 2018

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Lunyfringe · Jan 15, 2018

dArmi_Beretta said:
Gross. I don't want to drive in that View attachment 128958

What kind of horrible flu gets that much snot on the road?

C_Hallbert · Jan 16, 2018

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pronstar · Jan 16, 2018

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fishingsetx · Jan 16, 2018

dArmi_Beretta said:
Gross. I don't want to drive in that View attachment 128958

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No 4wd??? There have been days where I wouldnt have made it over overpasses without it! I thought that was the main reason for 4 hi

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Lunyfringe · Jan 16, 2018

fishingsetx said:
No 4wd??? There have been days where I wouldnt have made it over overpasses without it! I thought that was the main reason for 4 hi

It's the "driving on ice for dummies" version... 4wd can get you into trouble- overconfidence, or spinning 3 tires and losing more control if you don't know to feather the throttle.

Nothing wrong with using 4wd on slick roads if you know what you're doing.
Saw plenty of 4wd's in the ditch when I lived in Colorado- many with out of state plates, undoubtedly belonging to folks on Ft. Carson or other .mil bases and from warmer climates. They can get moving too fast too easily, and don't realize it doesn't help you stop much.

TexasBrandon · Jan 16, 2018

I grew up in the north for my first 17 years of life, snow for me is second nature. 4WD is what I will use if it gets to that point, otherwise 2WD. People think 4WD is the fix for everything as you said, that isn't the case at all. That being said, I don't know why people buy trucks that aren't 4WD. I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. In my case it gets used though since I have some land and go to the ranch to shoot.

Lunyfringe · Jan 16, 2018

In High School (Anchorage, AK), I had a little Dodge D50 pickup (re-badged Mitsubishi) that was 2wd... had studded tires and 600# of lead in the bed for traction and I could go all over on roads... even pulled people out of the ditch with a nylon tow rope (more stretch than poly)... but hillside (where the "4wd beyond this point" sign was) and off-road was limited. I did deliveries for a restaurant all winter in that thing...

BRD@66 · Jan 16, 2018

Lunyfringe said:
In High School (Anchorage, AK), I had a little Dodge D50 pickup (re-badged Mitsubishi) that was 2wd... had studded tires and 600# of lead in the bed for traction and I could go all over on roads... even pulled people out of the ditch with a nylon tow rope (more stretch than poly)... but hillside (where the "4wd beyond this point" sign was) and off-road was limited. I did deliveries for a restaurant all winter in that thing...

So, what did you eventually do with the lead?

Lunyfringe · Jan 16, 2018

BRD@66 said:
So, what did you eventually do with the lead?

Gave it back to the family business at the time (1988), they were just borrowed... Rubber stamp & engraving business... it was Linotype pigs that were strapped in. It was the last shop in Anchorage that was doing rubber stamps the old fashioned way, and they had 3 Linotype machines (at least one was for parts).

RACER X · Jan 16, 2018

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DwnRange · Jan 16, 2018

Lunyfringe said:
It's the "driving on ice for dummies" version... 4wd can get you into trouble- overconfidence, or spinning 3 tires and losing more control if you don't know to feather the throttle.

Nothing wrong with using 4wd on slick roads if you know what you're doing.
Saw plenty of 4wd's in the ditch when I lived in Colorado- many with out of state plates, undoubtedly belonging to folks on Ft. Carson or other .mil bases and from warmer climates. They can get moving too fast too easily, and don't realize it doesn't help you stop much.

Not to be a contrarian here - but the last vehicle I ever drove that was a REAL 4 pulling wheels, as in chain it to a tree and all 4 wheels spun - was a 1972 Chevy Blazer with locking hubs.

Aren't most shift on the fly ("not" get out of vehicle and lock the front-hubs) 4WD vehicles simply limited slip differentials with only ONE pulling wheel at a time front and rear???

Aren't AWD vehicles the same - limited slip front and rear?

Do they still make a vehicle with locking hubs that does have REAL 4 pulling wheels?

TexasBrandon · Jan 16, 2018

There are still locking differentials, Toyota Tacoma Off-Roads have them and a myriad of others. 4WD and AWD are different and not the same.

Younggun · Jan 16, 2018

It's the differential that makes the difference, not the method by which the hubs lock.

Most vehicles with manual locking hubs still had limited slip diffs and limited slip diffs will still send power to all 4 wheels at the same time, distribution of power is dependent on exactly how the diff is set up and depending on circumstance unequal distribution of pulling power can be advantageous.

Lunyfringe · Jan 16, 2018

DwnRange said:
Not to be a contrarian here - but the last vehicle I ever drove that was a REAL 4 pulling wheels, as in chain it to a tree and all 4 wheels spun - was a 1972 Chevy Blazer with locking hubs.

Aren't most shift on the fly ("not" get out of vehicle and lock the front-hubs) 4WD vehicles simply limited slip differentials with only ONE pulling wheel at a time front and rear???

Aren't AWD vehicles the same - limited slip front and rear?

Do they still make a vehicle with locking hubs that does have REAL 4 pulling wheels?

AWD is usually fluid coupled... so they can spin independently (required when using in high-traction environments)... but modern Traction control can force torque to go to non-spinning wheels by applying brakes only on wheel that's spinning. even without traction control, they will send a % of the torque to each axle with the fluid coupling.

My 2007 Ram 2500 has a rear locking diff with a locked transfer case- and CAD (Central Axle Disconnect, instead of locking hubs) in the front.. but it's truly 3wd, because the front isn't a locking diff (it's an open diff, not even limited slip)... it doesn't have traction control. Most old-school trucks were like this- a locking front diff causes driveability problems on clean, dry pavement.

DwnRange · Jan 16, 2018

Lunyfringe said:
AWD is usually fluid coupled... so they can spin independently (required when using in high-traction environments)... but modern Traction control can force torque to go to non-spinning wheels by applying brakes only on wheel that's spinning.

My 2007 Ram 2500 has a rear locking diff with a locked transfer case- and CAD (Central Axle Disconnect, instead of locking hubs) in the front.. but it's truly 3wd, because the front isn't a locking diff (it's an open diff, not even limited slip)... it doesn't have traction control. Most old-school trucks were like this- a locking front diff causes driveability problems on clean, dry pavement.

Thanks for the enlightenment, I was puzzled because that old Blazer was a blast to drive in the ice and snows of Colorado and appeared to me to very easily controlled, even fun. That said though I have never been a fan of ABS and can see where this would defiantly be an issue in/on newer vehicles and not recommended.

Lunyfringe · Jan 16, 2018

DwnRange said:
Thanks for the enlightenment, I was puzzled because that old Blazer was a blast to drive in the ice and snows of Colorado and appeared to me to very easily controlled, even fun. That said though I have never been a fan of ABS and can see where this would defiantly be an issue in/on newer vehicles and not recommended.

I LOVE driving on snow and ice... used to take vehicles out on lakes in AK after ice was over a foot thick.
ABS, traction control, auto-parallel parking and accident avoidance are creating brainless drivers.

For example, ABS does NOT help you stop faster- it helps someone who can't feather and/or modulate a brake pedal to maintain control by not locking up wheels. The traction control in my 2007 Charger will take you out of a skid automagically... drive by wire, so it backs out the throttle, and applies brakes as needed to "steer" the car out of the skid... it's kinda cool, but kinda creepy at the same time.

Brains · Jan 16, 2018

Your Charger has an open rear diff, and the only concept of torque vectoring IS through the brakes. Terrible for racing applications lol. One of the biggest things I hated about my '07 SRT8 Charger I used to have was the control systems. Laggy throttle, shifts were way too early and sluggish, and brake-based torque vectoring. All things that have no business in a "performance" sedan.

Younggun · Jan 16, 2018

The main issue with a truly locked diff is that it will force the tires to break traction when turning. Or break something else if the traction doesn't break.

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