Polymer 80 1911.
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I'm reminded of photographer Ansel Adams. He was known for never caring about new technology; he just cared about what worked. When he died in 1984, digital photography was not on anyone's radar at the consumer level.
Would he have adopted digital tools?
The long answer is here.
The short answer is that when digital got (or when it gets, depending on your viewpoint) good enough, of course he would have used it. The technology wasn't important to him, only the results.
If JMB were alive today, he'd be designing with polymer components and anything else as long as, considering all the requirements for the need he was trying to meet, the material worked better than the alternatives. Of course he would have embraced polymers wherever he thought they'd work better.
That would be even better.
Apparently there's more than one company making strange looking adaptations of the 1911. I got an email from grabagun today with the Hudson H9 on sale for only $1089.00.
https://www.hudsonmfg.com/product/#features
Kinda looks like Hi Point tried to get into the 1911 game to me (except for the price tag)
https://www.hudsonmfg.com/product/#features
Kinda looks like Hi Point tried to get into the 1911 game to me (except for the price tag)
There sure seem to be a lot of disappointing reviews on YT for that one.
The top half looks like a 1911. The bottom, not so much. Shaped more like a real 1911 with replaceable grips I could see. Maybe even go for if the price was right. That frame is not a 1911.
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I know I'm a little late coming here but I have to say something. I own 5 Kimber 1911's, some full size and some ultra compacts, and one polymer Kimber II 10. a polymer model only made for a few years in the '90's. I carry it in the truck because it's a double stack 10 shot. I have to say it's good to shoot. It seems like the recoil is less and the grip is extra wide for the double stack and fits my hands better. Just sayin".......
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Then you have have said what it is or rather what it isn't and that is a 1911. This kinda like putting Corvette hub caps on your car and telling folks its a Corvette...
A lot of folks calling pistols 1911's which to me are not. If it is a clone of a 1911, piece for piece, it's a 1911. Mfg doesn't count as multiple companies made 1911's for the military and they were all 1911's. Different frame, double stack, polymer, etc. Nope not a 1911. Even if it is 45 cal. My 2 cents.
Care for the thoughts of a feller what kinda likes 1911's? Well....yer gonna get 'em anyways.
#1 - it ain't a 1911 in any way, shape or form. They can toss out all the buzz words they want - but given that there's NOTHING on that frame compatible w/any series 1911, STFU.
#2 - Rail. Nothing BUT rail. Okay, I admit - I ain't an "operator". NONE of the 1911's I own have a rail, and that's for a reason.
#3 - NO grip safety. Don't know about the rest of you, but that IS one of the reasons I like a 1911 - a little extra protection that I don't have to think about to engage/disengage.
#4 - Repairs 20 years down the road. With the huge amount of proprietary parts on this thing, what's gonna happen if they go TU and you need a part down the road? Have it custom made? Sure hope it's gonna be worth doing.
#5 - Resale value. Someone mentioned selling it for a few bucks profit if they decide they don't like it. Ask Hi-Point owners how that's worked for them....most folks simply aren't going to buy a limited-run gun - and IMO, this gun isn't going to be on the market for long. There's simply nothing that it does different/better than other guns already on the market.
And for the record, I've owned several polymer 1911's. I kept the STI VIP double-stack, but sold the Wilson KZ-45. Nothing wrong with it, just didn't really "fit" me like the STI does.
#1 - it ain't a 1911 in any way, shape or form. They can toss out all the buzz words they want - but given that there's NOTHING on that frame compatible w/any series 1911, STFU.
#2 - Rail. Nothing BUT rail. Okay, I admit - I ain't an "operator". NONE of the 1911's I own have a rail, and that's for a reason.
#3 - NO grip safety. Don't know about the rest of you, but that IS one of the reasons I like a 1911 - a little extra protection that I don't have to think about to engage/disengage.
#4 - Repairs 20 years down the road. With the huge amount of proprietary parts on this thing, what's gonna happen if they go TU and you need a part down the road? Have it custom made? Sure hope it's gonna be worth doing.
#5 - Resale value. Someone mentioned selling it for a few bucks profit if they decide they don't like it. Ask Hi-Point owners how that's worked for them....most folks simply aren't going to buy a limited-run gun - and IMO, this gun isn't going to be on the market for long. There's simply nothing that it does different/better than other guns already on the market.
And for the record, I've owned several polymer 1911's. I kept the STI VIP double-stack, but sold the Wilson KZ-45. Nothing wrong with it, just didn't really "fit" me like the STI does.
Two or three decades ago, it was possible to buy 1911 frames with no cutout for a grip safety. Earlier than that, pinning it down was a common custom-pistol enhancement.
Here's one vote for "A grip safety isn't a requirement for something to be a 1911."
Of course, that comes from a guy who owns plenty of target pistols with no safeties at all so my mindset might be a little different.
This is how I feel about the looks. They killed the 1911 and made something horrid.
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