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Armored Personnel Carrier
Never heard of APC before today.
Armored Personnel Carrier
Never heard of APC before today.
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Armored Personnel Carrier
See, I told you my keyboard makes mistakes. It has dyslexia.
At what point do we say "Enough!"? When can we as gun owners look at what is available and wonder, is this worth it? Do I think we should have the right to bear arms, absolutely! But when does our advancement in firearms technology need to be reigned in? We don't sell automatic weapons to just everyone, why is that? Why do we then allow the technology to circumvent that restriction?
I'll repeat, the shootings are getting worse, and more frequent. Last I checked we don't have Tom Cruise being able to stop future crime. So what can we do about it? Do we just shrug our shoulders one more time and flip the page?
There are folks here much more learned in the culture than I, and what you think CAN be done?
Interesting (to me) sidebar -Guns haven’t changed significantly in close to a hundred years. Automatic and semi automatic guns have been around since turn of the century and people had access to them like ordering tools from amazon. Oddly they didn’t shoot each other to smithereens often.
I think some of y'all are talking past each other.
50-100 years ago, "an automatic" was common language used to refer to a semi-automatic pistol. Everyone knew the difference between full- and semi-, even if the terminology was sometimes imprecise.
You'll even run across the occasional oldtimer these days who still calls a 1911 an automatic. They're not wrong; they're just using outdated language that sounds wrong to our modern ears.
Shall we cut each other a break?
Terminology:
The language surrounding automatic, semi-automatic, self-loading, etc., often causes confusion due to differences in technical usage between different countries and differences in popular usage. For example, the term "automatic pistol" technically refers to a machine pistol which is capable of firing multiple round bursts for a single pull of the trigger, although in popular US usage it is also used as a synonym for a semi-automatic pistol. In the case of pistols, an 'automatic pistol', a 'semi-automatic pistol', or a 'self-loading pistol', all usually imply a handgun that is semi-automatic, self-loading, and magazine-fed with a magazine that is removable, producing one shot fired for each trigger pull. The term pistol may refer to handguns in general, or may be used to differentiate (semi-automatic) pistols from revolvers.
The Schönberger-Laumann 1892 was the first semi-automatic pistol.
yep. that same oldtimer would also be as likely to refer to it as an autoloader. or somesuch. :cheers:I think some of y'all are talking past each other.
50-100 years ago, "an automatic" was common language used to refer to a semi-automatic pistol. Everyone knew the difference between full- and semi-, even if the terminology was sometimes imprecise.
You'll even run across the occasional oldtimer these days who still calls a 1911 an automatic. They're not wrong; they're just using outdated language that sounds wrong to our modern ears.
Shall we cut each other a break?
Ben, I copied the body of this post on another forum I belong to. :cheers:Interesting (to me) sidebar -
Back 100-120 years ago, armies had switched to bolt action rifles. Like today with ARs, the bolt action had entered the consciousness of shooters as a normal rifle, one they'd been exposed to in the military. When they got out of the military or if they were just plugged into "gun culture", folks started buying bolt action rifles.
No big deal, right?
Nope. What's happening today happened back then.
There are some (in retrospect) hilarious editorials to be found in the archives of New York newspapers from over 100 years ago talking about the fact that bolt action rifles should be banned because they were killing machines, designed for the military, and no private citizen had any need for one.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.