I'm not sure what you mean, this is a gun forum not a psychology forum, or is it the guns that are running amuck?
Rifle type used in school massacre ‘designed to kill multiple enemy combatants at once’
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Inspector43
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I apologize for confusing everyone with what might be an intellectual conversation. I will back on out of here and read a book.
I'm just trying to understand what you mean by solution. Do I think that if that guy wouldn't have gotten a semi-automatic rifle he would have turned out to be an upstanding member of his community? No. I think if he was planning to harm others he would have found a means another way. No gun laws will magically turn bad people into good people.
Inspector43
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I agree. I only thought that there may be ways to prevent someone on the edge from getting a gun while still allowing the good guys to keep their interest and hobby going. If we want to keep the AR available I think we need to participate in a solution. A way to qualify the good guys or disqualify the suspect or bad guys. It is not that simple as you have seen from the thread. If it comes down to AR or no AR I am afraid that we may lose.
With this comment I know that I will only bring out more negativity. But, there you go.
There are places in the world where psychiatric evaluation is required prior to owning a gun legally. That might work but it's terribly at odds with the American ideal that the ability to protect ones self, family, community, and country from evil is a basic human right, a right that even people who aren't quite right in the head should continue to have.
(Many thanks to Wildcat Diva in another thread for the education she's been providing me.)
How might we overcome the conflict between those two schools of thought?
I don’t think the AR is the problem, I don’t have any problem with moving the legal age of buying an AR to 21. I don’t have a problem to buying any semi rifle or pistol to 21. It kind of makes since if you can buy tobacco at 18 but not alcohol till 21. But that will not solve the problem.
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Not trying to be negative, just trying to take a rational look at things. But let me ask you this: There are good drivers and bad drivers and if all of a sudden more vehicles were used to intentionally kill people, should we then reevaluate everyone who drives and take away licenses of those we deem bad drivers?
Inspector43
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My original thought was to develop a process similar to the one used by the CMP for magazine fed, semi-automatic's. I can't say AR type because I don't have a way to qualify my nomenclature. And there are those who would nix the entire idea for that one little designation. Require that a person be pre-qualified by several means such as the CMP uses.
Inspector43
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If this was an easy task we wouldn't be discussing it. I don't know a good answer. But, if we the people don't come up with something that will work our children and grandchildren won't be discussing it at all.
There is political merit to that approach. It simply wouldn't impact the people who are most devoted to the 2A so it removes any purely selfish motives to resist such a change. However, it would also force them to abandon their principles and they know that a stance like that would eventually come back to haunt them. That antis would point to it and say "See, you didn't care what we did as long as it wasn't your goose being cooked. You're a bunch of hypocrites!"
I think much of the resistance you're encountering is simply because folks realize that giving an inch will be viewed by the other side as permission to take a mile.
However, please don't feel that your contributions are not appreciated. Only by brainstorming broadly can anything new be done that might help the situation so we need folks who think different to contribute.
Now, that doesn't mean that I accept that it's possible to do anything new that's helpful. That may not be possible. But we don't know if we don't talk it out.
Toss out ideas. See 'em slapped down. Grow a thick skin and try again. Eventually, we may all react to something you say (or anyone says) with a sincere "Y'know, I've never thought of it that way..."
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Unfortunately there have been terrible people throughout the history of mankind, take away all guns, there will still be terrible people. Once you go down the path of making it harder for people to defend themselves, you only create more victims for those terrible people.
Inspector43
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Thanks. That was my original objective. Feedback, negative or positive, is workable.
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Here's one person's idea.
My main concern with the idea is providing absolute safeguards to storage of the property AND preventing any form of inventory becoming "registration". I have mixed emotions regarding this, mostly, how do you prevent politically motivated abuse?
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/02/gun-control-republicans-consider-grvo/
My main concern with the idea is providing absolute safeguards to storage of the property AND preventing any form of inventory becoming "registration". I have mixed emotions regarding this, mostly, how do you prevent politically motivated abuse?
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/02/gun-control-republicans-consider-grvo/
Inspector43
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Thanks, that was a good read.
I think what you're going to find, and I've found psychologically as a group and individuals, is that gun owners see any compromise on gun rights as an open door by the anti-gun advocates to push for full registration and gun bans. They're terrified of it. Some for personal reasons and some for political reasons. On the other hand the anti-gun advocates will take nothing less than full bans on arms as the long term solution.
