Active Shooter in HS in Parkland, Florida

karlac · Feb 21, 2018

kj5634 said:
what was the answer

Quiet citizen ... we'll let you know.
Providing the answer suits our agenda, that is...

deemus · Feb 21, 2018

The kid went in when someone was coming out (I think that was it). It was when school was letting out.

LOCKHART · Feb 21, 2018

Lotta hell being raised this time. We better be on our toes or we will be thrown to the wolves. Bad laws always seem to get passed on emotion, not good sense.

karlac · Feb 21, 2018

LOCKHART said:
Lotta hell being raised this time. We better be on our toes or we will be thrown to the wolves. Bad laws always seem to get passed on emotion, not good sense.

Said this fifty times in the last three days to liberals.
Repeat it enough, and like a lie, it might become believable to them.
Oh wait ...

LOCKHART · Feb 21, 2018

Southpaw · Feb 22, 2018

Armed deputy at Florida school resigns after failing to engage shooter

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla., Feb 22 (Reuters) - The armed deputy assigned to the campus of a Florida high school during a deadly shooting last week stayed outside the building during the attack and failed to engage the shooter, the county sheriff said on Thursday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...uring-shootings-sheriff/ar-BBJtrIA?li=BBnb7Kz

LOCKHART · Feb 22, 2018

Whatta piece of cowardly shit!

Texan-in-Training · Feb 22, 2018

and here...
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/ne...puty-never-entered-school-in-florida-shooting

ZX9RCAM · Feb 22, 2018

That's certainly a new wrinkle....

avvidclif · Feb 22, 2018

While it's despicable to me that's the way they are trained today. In a shooting situation don't go in alone, wait for backup. Why do you think there are so many times SWAT is called out on a supposed barricaded person.

MTA · Feb 22, 2018

Southpaw said:
Armed deputy at Florida school resigns after failing to engage shooter

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...uring-shootings-sheriff/ar-BBJtrIA?li=BBnb7Kz

only cops should have guns LOL

Shady · Feb 22, 2018

sucks but not many would want to take a pistol and light armor <if any> to a rifle fight.

BillFairbanks · Feb 22, 2018

Shady said:
sucks but not many would want to take a pistol and light armor <if any> to a rifle fight.

Yet, unarmed teachers gave their lives to shield students. This guy was a coward who failed to do his job.

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BillFairbanks · Feb 22, 2018

avvidclif said:
While it's despicable to me that's the way they are trained today. In a shooting situation don't go in alone, wait for backup. Why do you think there are so many times SWAT is called out on a supposed barricaded person.

That’s not what his boss said. He said he should’ve engaged the killer. Which is why he was suspended and resigned.

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benenglish · Feb 22, 2018

avvidclif said:
that's the way they are trained today. In a shooting situation don't go in alone, wait for backup

Actually, I don't think that's right. AFAIK, the modern way of considering these situations is that you enter immediately, with whatever you have on hand. The armed, trained LEO can put pressure on a spree shooter that causes them to abandon their plans. They may get shot, run away, or suicide but merely the act of bringing force to bear instantly is generally considered to be enough to break up the dynamic at work and save lives.

I may be wrong, of course. If an experienced LEO trainer with up-to-date knowledge is reading this, please feel free to jump in.

tonyt79 · Feb 22, 2018

MTA89 said:
only cops should have guns LOL

Exactly! And people say have prior service military guard schools. I am sure those mechanics and cooks can for sure handle their stuff when things go down.

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karlac · Feb 23, 2018

Man was paid to do a job, and he failed to perform.
Only takes one good man to make a difference.
May that fact haunt him in the dark hours of every morning.

That said, the liberals are blaming the NRA and guns, NOT the shooter.
Let's not fall into that same trap and make this guy the scapegoat.

AustinN4 · Feb 23, 2018

avvidclif said:
While it's despicable to me that's the way they are trained today. In a shooting situation don't go in alone, wait for backup.

Not according numerous LEO posting about this on another forum I belong to. It has evolved from what you said to now get in alone if you have to and confront the shooter ASAP.

oldag · Feb 23, 2018

benenglish said:
Actually, I don't think that's right. AFAIK, the modern way of considering these situations is that you enter immediately, with whatever you have on hand. The armed, trained LEO can put pressure on a spree shooter that causes them to abandon their plans. They may get shot, run away, or suicide but merely the act of bringing force to bear instantly is generally considered to be enough to break up the dynamic at work and save lives.

I may be wrong, of course. If an experienced LEO trainer with up-to-date knowledge is reading this, please feel free to jump in.

Ben is correct (although I am not a LEO trainer, I read quite a bit and know some LEO's rather well). After Columbine, the training shifted from "wait for SWAT" to get in immediately. Many of the sick shooters will commit suicide as soon as they see someone with a gun, as they would rather die than go to prison.

oldag · Feb 23, 2018

I can certainly understand the deputy's fear. Survival is a strong emotion. But what a terrible time/way to find out he could not master that fear and do his job.

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