I don’t wanna get my gun habit and porn habit mixed up. That could lead to an interesting mishap.
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Which one?
Do you also mix up which lubricant is for which?
Short version:
The political agenda of YouTube combined with their market dominance is producing an all-around bad time for the concept of free-speech-via-video on the internet. Fully functional solutions are possible but will take a long time to implement. I see no way to head off the damage happening right now. The near future, at least, is a bleak prospect for content creators who have something more important to say than "Look at my funny kitten!"
Long version:
Anyone who wants to replace YouTube is faced with this problem. To successfully replace YT with a clone of YT, an upstart must have as much money to throw away as Alphabet/Google/YT has spent over the last decade or so. That's not going to happen. If it did, it would still be an entity just as corruptible as YT.
The alternative is that anyone who wants to replace YT must immediately come up with a way to either
The problem with the Patreon model is that end users must already know they want the content and be willing to pay for it. The (frankly, wonderful) practice of going down a rabbit hole on YT and discovering new, weird, wonderful content is not practically possible with creators on Patreon.
The second approach can also work. There are distributed methods of hosting content that work well. While the architectures vary, the concept has been proven over and over. From Napster to Freenet to the various peer-to-peer protocols and implementations (Remember when BitTorrent was the single largest sort of traffic on the open 'net?), there have been a number of successful technologies that address this particular need.
The downside of p2p is that it's not real-time like YT. You can't just click a link and be watching a video. BitChute is headed down a much-modernized version of that path and I wish them all the success in the world.
Personally, I feel pretty sure that if someone were to come up with a BitTorrent client that was simplified and dedicated solely to near-real-time video delivery (which is certainly possible), they'd have a straightforward solution to the problem.
I also know that a network like that would immediately be sabotaged by people who don't like the content. That, too, is a straightforward task for several players at different levels in the content delivery architecture.
Such is the nature, the strength, and the curse of pretty much all peer-to-peer solutions.
(For, say, a revived Napster to avoid these problems as well as implement the streaming services required to functionally replace YT, they'd have to employ a file vetting process controlled by the creators. Heck, a solution could even be draped over the NNTP protocol. I have some thoughts on the algos required for several protocols but, frankly, this post is already way too long.)
Bottom line? Something will replace YT, eventually, for people who care about free speech. I doubt anything will successfully replace the ease of use of YT for a long time. For that reason, the masses will continue to support it. Thus, I doubt it will die in the next decade. The practical death of YT will require shifts in the technology used on every device out there and that takes time. Even then, YT will become like Cobol; it will likely always be out there, even if no one thinks they're using it any more.
In the meantime, I foresee the continued and accelerated balkanization of content creator communities. It will still be possible to find everything you want but
Perhaps not.
The political agenda of YouTube combined with their market dominance is producing an all-around bad time for the concept of free-speech-via-video on the internet. Fully functional solutions are possible but will take a long time to implement. I see no way to head off the damage happening right now. The near future, at least, is a bleak prospect for content creators who have something more important to say than "Look at my funny kitten!"
Long version:
Yeah, that was my point about Full30. Google can afford to throw money away to achieve market dominance and only then worry about successful monetization. Full30 can't do that.
Anyone who wants to replace YouTube is faced with this problem. To successfully replace YT with a clone of YT, an upstart must have as much money to throw away as Alphabet/Google/YT has spent over the last decade or so. That's not going to happen. If it did, it would still be an entity just as corruptible as YT.
The alternative is that anyone who wants to replace YT must immediately come up with a way to either
- successfully monetize the content way beyond anything YT has achieved or
- radically cut costs.
The problem with the Patreon model is that end users must already know they want the content and be willing to pay for it. The (frankly, wonderful) practice of going down a rabbit hole on YT and discovering new, weird, wonderful content is not practically possible with creators on Patreon.
The second approach can also work. There are distributed methods of hosting content that work well. While the architectures vary, the concept has been proven over and over. From Napster to Freenet to the various peer-to-peer protocols and implementations (Remember when BitTorrent was the single largest sort of traffic on the open 'net?), there have been a number of successful technologies that address this particular need.
The downside of p2p is that it's not real-time like YT. You can't just click a link and be watching a video. BitChute is headed down a much-modernized version of that path and I wish them all the success in the world.
Personally, I feel pretty sure that if someone were to come up with a BitTorrent client that was simplified and dedicated solely to near-real-time video delivery (which is certainly possible), they'd have a straightforward solution to the problem.
I also know that a network like that would immediately be sabotaged by people who don't like the content. That, too, is a straightforward task for several players at different levels in the content delivery architecture.
Such is the nature, the strength, and the curse of pretty much all peer-to-peer solutions.
(For, say, a revived Napster to avoid these problems as well as implement the streaming services required to functionally replace YT, they'd have to employ a file vetting process controlled by the creators. Heck, a solution could even be draped over the NNTP protocol. I have some thoughts on the algos required for several protocols but, frankly, this post is already way too long.)
Bottom line? Something will replace YT, eventually, for people who care about free speech. I doubt anything will successfully replace the ease of use of YT for a long time. For that reason, the masses will continue to support it. Thus, I doubt it will die in the next decade. The practical death of YT will require shifts in the technology used on every device out there and that takes time. Even then, YT will become like Cobol; it will likely always be out there, even if no one thinks they're using it any more.
In the meantime, I foresee the continued and accelerated balkanization of content creator communities. It will still be possible to find everything you want but
- you'll have to hunt for it,
- it won't be easy, and
- the problem of "walled gardens" and "echo chambers" will only become worse.
Perhaps not.
http://www.bigcountryhomepage.com/news/main-news/behold-gunbook-facebook-for-gun-lovers/1070081257
Thoughts?
I'm pretty ignorant on internal workings of the internet.
Thoughts?
I'm pretty ignorant on internal workings of the internet.
My initial impression is that it's just a low-rent Facebook clone, won't penetrate the shooting public's consciousness beyond Brit airgun shooters, and has a TOS that can easily be interpreted to shut down any conversation half as boisterous as what commonly happens on TGT.
I think it's a non-starter. It certainly has no aspirations toward or ability to remedy any of the problems being created by YT censorship.
Maybe I should get an account, post a video of me shooting Sugarland's MAC, and see what happens. I'm considering it.
That's the uhm...rub...with watching in PornHub. It's harder to show my kids a video of Hickok blowing up watermelons when another set of melons are just off to the side.
That and convincing my wife I want to watch Schmeisser videos and not Scheisse videos...not that I watch Sche..I'm going to stop now.
You don't have to see the ads. Down in the lower right of the video display box, there's an icon for showing them full-screen which keeps you from seeing the other stuff on the page.
Uh....
So I've heard.
Yeah, that's right. So I've heard.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
@benenglish, while it's depressing, you're absolutely right. Nothing is going to unseat YouTube in the near future. Not until the momentum shifts to something else and centrally hosted videos are considered archaic.
The biggest blow to forcing gun videos off of YouTube and into niche corners is that it denormalizes and marginalizes the shooting culture even further. And I'm not sure there is any way to effectively combat that.
The biggest blow to forcing gun videos off of YouTube and into niche corners is that it denormalizes and marginalizes the shooting culture even further. And I'm not sure there is any way to effectively combat that.
Any of the pirate sites, I suppose. I got mine off usenet a long time ago. Frankly, if you like it you'll want to own it so it's probably worth buying the DVD of the director's cut, anyway.
I firmly believe that's their precise goal.
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