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Texasgordo
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Bravo for that sousaphone player!
He bounty hunts for Jabba Hut to finance it.
I don't mind ordering for the woman I'm with. In fact, I like it. I was taught it was the gentlemanly way to behave.
I'll never figure out why, however, she has to know what I'm having before she can make up her mind. Apparently, nearly all women want to know what their date is having before they can make up their mind about what they want to order.
On a couple of occasions, I've told the woman what I was having so she'd make her decision. Then I'd place the order as "The lady will have <whatever she said she wanted>. I'll have <something completely different from what I told her>."
I've never done anything in public that made a date more angry, more quickly. Protestations of "Hey, I just changed my mind at the last minute. It's my prerogative, right?" never seemed to help in the slightest.
It's a great test, though. If they flip out over that, they're not someone upon whom I will waste any more time or money.
C_Hallbert
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About half of the time I order dinner for my wife. I know what she likes or pretty much what she would probably like. She likes the surprise. Anyway, if there is too much diversity in choices that I know she likes, I ask.
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Speaking as a married man, if I order something my wife likes then she can get a little risky with her order. If she doesn't like what she ordered then I get the honor of trading with her.
If she doesn't like what I order then she has to stick with something she knows she likes.
Maybe some women feel like on a date this is still an option?
Men or mental cases? Still works I guess.
Maybe they want to know what their date is ordering in order to gauge how much money they can "spend" on their meal.
Of course finding people that are courteous enough to think that way can be rare.
Of course finding people that are courteous enough to think that way can be rare.
In a dating context, this translates to me as "I'm in charge. I get the options and you get to cater to my whims."
I grew out of tolerating that a long time ago.
I don't subscribe to the whole MGTOW philosophy but there are bits of truth to be found in every worldview. This is one of those little insights into human behavior that players and MGTOWs have figured out correctly. If a woman can test a man in these little ways and find that he gives in, consistently, without ever standing up for himself, then they know they have found a man they can manipulate.
I do not find attractive any woman who seeks men, even partially, on their willingness to be manipulated.
Naturally, with a loved one and an established relationship, I'm willing to make allowances but I expect communications. I'm thrilled with any woman who's willing to demonstrate a bit of vulnerability by explicitly saying "I'd like to try this entree but I don't know if I'll like it. Would you be willing to order something I know I like and trade me if I don't like the thing I'm considering?"
There's a huge difference between asking me for a favor vs. manipulating me so that they'll be OK no matter what sort of mistake they make and without having to ever admit to making any mistake.
One is honest, open communication. One is guile.
I know which of the two I prefer to invite into my life.
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I had a lady order for me on a first date. It was our last date too!
I always tell my date that I’m wavering between two choices and I name them. I then let them order first and use that as my final deciding factor in what I order.
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I always tell my date that I’m wavering between two choices and I name them. I then let them order first and use that as my final deciding factor in what I order.
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I've had this happen at fast food places where the difference between the most expensive and least expensive thing on the menu is literally pocket change. I've had it happen in top-end steakhouses where they realistically know I'm going to be spending so much money that a $30 difference in the cost of our orders is basically a rounding error when calculating the tip.
So I don't buy your theory. It's a charitable thought and the fact that you'd put it forward speaks well of you but I just don't see it that way.
In every relationship, there are little ways each person can test the other to determine just how tolerant, how giving, or how spineless their potential partner is.
I consider the whole "I have to know what you're having before I can decide on my order" thing to be a particularly insidious way of testing for spinelessness.
I freely admit that this is one of those little pet peeves of mine that I find irritating beyond what is reasonable. I recognize that and it's not a deal-killer. If a woman is otherwise wonderful, this is something we can talk out.
But a woman who trots out this test of how much she can get away with on a first date then gets into a huff when it fails is a woman who fails to get a second invitation from me. Over the course of my life, I've been surprised by the number of women who think this is an absolute privilege that must be afforded to all women. When I was a teenager, I knew something was wrong and it bothered me; late in life I came to understand and deeply resent this sort of game-playing.
File this under "Bonus Insight Of The Day - Why Ben Never Married, Reason #204."
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