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  • pronstar

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    Powerful.
    Doesn’t even let his own kids use social media that he helped create.



    Ex-Facebook Executive: “You Don’t Realize It But You Are Being Programmed”

    Several months ago, one of the early pioneers of Facebook and its first President Sean Parker, voiced his regret regarding helping create social media in the form we know it today, saying: “I don’t know if I really understood the consequences of what I was saying, because of the unintended consequences of a network when it grows to a billion or 2 billion people and it literally changes your relationship with society, with each other,”…”God only knows what it’s doing to our children’s brains.”

    Parker says the social networking site exploits human psychological vulnerabilities through a validation feedback loop that gets people to constantly post to get even more likes and comments. “It’s exactly the kind of thing that a hacker like myself would come up with, because you’re exploiting a vulnerability in human psychology,” he said. “The inventors, creators — it’s me, it’s Mark [Zuckerberg], it’s Kevin Systrom on Instagram, it’s all of these people — understood this consciously. And we did it anyway.”

    Later on, another former Facebook executive opened up about the same concerns.
    Chamath Palihapitiya, former vice president of user growth at Facebook stated at a recent public discussion at the Stanford Graduate School of Business, “I think we have created tools that are ripping apart the social fabric of how society works.”

    ”The short-term, dopamine-driven feedback loops we’ve created are destroying how society works,” Palihapitiya said. “No civil discourse, no cooperation; misinformation, mistruth. And it’s not an American problem — this is not about Russians ads. This is a global problem.”

    Palihapitiya then expressed the feeling of guilt, “I feel tremendous guilt. I think we all knew in the back of our minds — even though we feigned this whole line of, like, there probably aren’t any bad unintended consequences. I think in the back, deep, deep recesses of, we kind of knew something bad could happen. But I think the way we defined it was not like this.”

    “So we are in a really bad state of affairs right now, in my opinion. It is eroding the core foundation of how people behave by and between each other. And I don’t have a good solution. My solution is I just don’t use these tools anymore. I haven’t for years.“

    Concerning the issue of social media as a whole, Palihapitiya stated that he doesn’t use it anymore since he “innately didn’t want to get programmed.” And as for his kids, “they’re not allowed to use this shit.”

    Then he goes on to express some really strong sentiments:
    “Bad actors can now manipulate large swaths of people to do anything you want. It’s a bad, bad state of affairs. And we compound the problem. We curate our lives around this perceived sense of perfection, because we get rewarded in these short term signals: Hearts, likes, thumbs up. And we conflate that with value and we conflate it with truth, and instead what it really is is fake, brittle popularity that’s short term and that leaves you even more, and admit it, vacant and empty before you did it. Because it forces you into this vicious cycle about what’s the next thing I need to do, because I need it back. And think about that compounded by two billion people.”

    “Everybody else has to soul-search a little bit more about what you’re willing to do,” he said. “Because your behaviors, you don’t realize it, but you are being programmed. It was unintentional, but now you gotta decide how much you’re willing to give up, how much of your intellectual independence.”

    He finishes this up by warning the audience not to think they’re too smart to fall for the implications of social media, and stated that those who are best-and-brightest are the most likely to fall for it, “because you are fucking check-boxing your whole Goddamn life.”

    Now this is some really strong stuff, especially coming straightforward from Frankenstein’s mouth



    https://medium.com/@mustaphahitani/...ze-it-but-you-are-being-programmed-618242134d



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    Vaquero

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    Direct result of programming.
     

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    I have seen it happen on nextdoor alot. someon states something or has a complaint and wants to be validated. When it does not turn out how they thought it would be they get all butt hurt and start lashing out at people.
     

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    Yesterday it was T.V. and movies, today it's the internet. With most children having access to the internet at basically any moment, it is more effective. One of the many contributors to the downfall of society I'm afraid.
     

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    Most humans don't have enough self control for this type of technology. The technology just makes this situation worse because you don't have to look someone in the eye. Everyone is just too damn emotional these days.
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    TheDan

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    It's just a tool, and like any other tool some people are going to abuse and misuse it. I find facebook to be a useful in organizing events, disseminating information, and making connections in real life.

    I guess I've never been affected by the "dopamine-driven feedback loop" because I'm naturally attention whore adverse. The good news is that you can just mute overposters and never have to see their crap.

    There is a creepy factor in how it builds a marketing profile on you and attempts to track your movements across the web. Providing a platform such as facebook isn't cheap though, and they have to pay the bills in some way. I limit my exposure to their tracking by only logging into it using a private browsing window and never navigate to any other websites from that instance.

    The thing that pisses me off about facebook is how the leftists social engineers that control the platform have decided they want to "nudge" the content. They've modified how information gets rated and displayed based on the type of content instead of whether or not people actually like it. It's a way for them to silence viewpoints that are contrary to their own.
    BUT... if you're not playing that dopamine-driven feedback loop game in the first place it doesn't really effect you.
     

    Southpaw

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    It always blew my mind how most people on those platforms just offered up their details to whoever. And some say we do it here and I agree to a point. But not to the degree it's done on FB et. al. .
     

    easy rider

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    Since the college uses Facebook and at times I get announcements from it, also our department has a Facebook page and on rare occasions I post in it, I'm kinda required to have an account.
     

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    I don’t think it’s bad for a thinking person to use or have an account.

    Like anything, some folks take things too far, freely give it waaaay too much personal info, and then don’t realize that every thing they do is being tracked so a profile can be built...all in the name of serving ads up to you.

    And these folks are often kids, the vulnerable, or even people who’ve been bullied and are looking for affirmation. Or just the naive.

    Remember this:
    If something is free, then the product is you.


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    I actually have an account that I use to join contests/give aways that only use FB.
    I never open it or look at it.
     

    pronstar

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    And how is FB any different than other internet social forums?

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    In many ways, it’s just like a web browser or any website you visit.

    It’s the dopamine loop the article mentions, that’s the difference.


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    I am on FB and maybe its the way I am set up, but I never see much of anything other than a few people I know which is why I am on there. IMO its the settings stupid, open yourself for the world to see and the world will see, maybe I am not on enough to make a splash of any kind but that is just me.

    I agree 100% its a dangerous thing in the hand of a evil doer. IF you don't really know who Zuckerberg really is you need to find out...a 32 year old kid, never worked a day in his life and in charge of 2 BILLION people and he is one of the top 5 worlds richest men. I would feel safer in room full of ISIS with AK's and me wearing a cross and an America flag shirt.

    Facebook, created by some college kid as a way of meeting girls. Far left socialist: Google it: 'Zuckerberg UBI'
     

    FireInTheWire

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    It always blew my mind how most people on those platforms just offered up their details to whoever. And some say we do it here and I agree to a point. But not to the degree it's done on FB et. al. .
    Yeah like when people post when their out of town... Or the worst I've seen wifes that posted that their husband is gone. How stupid can you be.

    I've asked my wife to be mindful of her info on FB. She just likes looking at pics of the family...
     
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