Of course, there is a little ole thing called slander....
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Of course, there is a little ole thing called slander....
I guess I'm more against laws that tell a business owner that they have to bake a cake for a gay couple then I am about signs that tell of a criminal trespass, since without the signs you can still be charged with criminal trespass depending on the situation.
If 30.06 posted and you are caught carrying and asked to leave (and comply) it's a max $200 fine if they want to push the issue.
Sec D:
(d) An offense under this section is a Class C misdemeanor punishable by a fine not to exceed $200, except that the offense is a Class A misdemeanor if it is shown on the trial of the offense that, after entering the property, the license holder was personally given the notice by oral communication described by Subsection (b) and subsequently failed to depart.
Sec D:
(d) An offense under this section is a Class C misdemeanor punishable by a fine not to exceed $200, except that the offense is a Class A misdemeanor if it is shown on the trial of the offense that, after entering the property, the license holder was personally given the notice by oral communication described by Subsection (b) and subsequently failed to depart.
Try all you want, but it is not the government limiting your rights in such situations, it is the property owner. The government has every right to give that authority to the property owner. Essentially the owner can define whatever standards they want to allow people to be on their property, and any failure to abide or leave is already criminalized under the state's trespassing laws.
Instead of analogies, I will use the recent incident of the two black males who were told to leave a Starbucks because they weren't paying patrons. Despite their claims of discrimination, what it boils down to is that they were on private property and failed to leave when told. That is against the law, hence why they were arrested.
Instead of analogies, I will use the recent incident of the two black males who were told to leave a Starbucks because they weren't paying patrons. Despite their claims of discrimination, what it boils down to is that they were on private property and failed to leave when told. That is against the law, hence why they were arrested.
Be that as it may, watch for the two black guys to hit the "ghetto lottery" on this one. These people, along with Muslims, are the new protected classes. Starbucks has deep pockets and all their stores are owned and frequented by idiot liberals, so I see a big pay off coming for those two fellows.
seeker_two
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If they had held hands and ordered some cake, they would have doubled their payout....
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No disputing that, but that's due to the lunacy that is occurring in our civil courts (and courts of public opinion, for what that's worth!).
Criminally they were guilty as charged...
Double Naught Spy
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Can somebody show me where this is an actual law? The pdf goes to a house bill. I can't find this as law on Tennessee's legislative site.
I am pretty sure it was stated earlier that this is still a bill, and has not yet be passed by the Tennessee legislature or signed by the governor...
Ok, but where does it stop. If you can prevent people from entering who are carrying a gun then what's to stop them from not allowing people with green shirts, wheelchairs, gays, blacks, bad hair, etc... ???
I’m wary of the whole what’s good for the goose mentality. I understand it, but at the same time it has a tendency to escalate thing pretty quick.
I think something along the lines of absolving business of all criminal, civil, financial... liability from a licensed holder injuring someone would be far better. Good luck with that though.
I think something along the lines of absolving business of all criminal, civil, financial... liability from a licensed holder injuring someone would be far better. Good luck with that though.
A business should have the right to discriminate, just like you have the right not to do business with them. I'm sure it wouldn't help their business to discriminate for all those things, but they have a right to run their business into the ground too.
So, you're saying it should be ok for a business to not allow someone in a wheelchair into their business?
The ADA already defines the law as far as that goes, depending on the size of a business, so it doesn't really matter what anyone thinks.
seeker_two
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When does the Texas Legislature ever debate anything seriously? They can't even agree on where to go to the bathroom.....
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thequintessentialman
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... the idea was to get the discussion going. Just sitting back and waiting is not overly effective. Maybe if everyone writes their rep it would help.
Actually I believe it did become law but only after it was rewritten to give business complete absolution of liability from posting as gun free zone. I just got sick on the stomach...
https://www.bakerdonelson.com/Tenne...ntinue-to-Prohibit-Guns-Without-New-Liability
Double Naught Spy
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Thank you. That is what I recalled having happened, but I could not find it either. There is no way any state is going to pass a bill such as was the original text. It is just plain stupid. In part, it only protects those who have a license to carry and nobody else. Second, it has no justification. Anybody with a license injured in a robber in a business that did not allow guns could sue for not being allowed to carry even if that person wasn't going to carry anyway. Most people who own guns, most with licenses to carry, do not carry most of the time anyway. It was a stupid bill and correctly gutted.
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