Buy M1 Garand or no
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That rumor has been bouncing around for years. I wouldn't hold my breath.
I highly recommend contacting the CMP for your M1 Garand purchase. Most of the time you can request your level of quality when you place an order with them. Each level of quality has it's own price.
Two years ago I ordered a field grade M1 from CMP. I ordered it with new furniture. I paid $650 plus shipping. The rifle looked like a brand new rifle when it arrived. The bluing was perfect.
I placed a second order for an M1 from CMP. This time I ordered another field grade, but I specified original issue furniture. The second rifle arrived and it still had great bluing, but this time the stock looked like the rifle had been used. Some guy had even carved his initials in the butt stock.
Both rifles were Springfield Armory rifles. The first rifle had all numbers matching components. The second was your typical armory rebuild. Both are highly accurate. Both will bite you if you are not careful. The condition is called the M1 "thumb". If you buy one, you will learn!.
As stated before, unless this M1 has some special pedigree, $1,500 is way too steep. If the woman has paperwork to back up any claims of greatness, then maybe it is worth her asking price. Don't buy on hear say information.
Me, I would go to CMP and make a purchase. If you belong to a qualifying organization like Texas State Rifle Association, CMP will deliver the new M1 directly to your front door. No FFL required.
Be careful with the choice of ammo you shoot in it though if you buy one. Newer ammo is not recommended without modifications to the rifle's gas system.
The M1 is a fun rifle to own of shoot. If you remember your history, Patton called it "the greatest battle rifle ever made"
I highly recommend contacting the CMP for your M1 Garand purchase. Most of the time you can request your level of quality when you place an order with them. Each level of quality has it's own price.
Two years ago I ordered a field grade M1 from CMP. I ordered it with new furniture. I paid $650 plus shipping. The rifle looked like a brand new rifle when it arrived. The bluing was perfect.
I placed a second order for an M1 from CMP. This time I ordered another field grade, but I specified original issue furniture. The second rifle arrived and it still had great bluing, but this time the stock looked like the rifle had been used. Some guy had even carved his initials in the butt stock.
Both rifles were Springfield Armory rifles. The first rifle had all numbers matching components. The second was your typical armory rebuild. Both are highly accurate. Both will bite you if you are not careful. The condition is called the M1 "thumb". If you buy one, you will learn!.
As stated before, unless this M1 has some special pedigree, $1,500 is way too steep. If the woman has paperwork to back up any claims of greatness, then maybe it is worth her asking price. Don't buy on hear say information.
Me, I would go to CMP and make a purchase. If you belong to a qualifying organization like Texas State Rifle Association, CMP will deliver the new M1 directly to your front door. No FFL required.
Be careful with the choice of ammo you shoot in it though if you buy one. Newer ammo is not recommended without modifications to the rifle's gas system.
The M1 is a fun rifle to own of shoot. If you remember your history, Patton called it "the greatest battle rifle ever made"
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Your hand is covering the manufacturer/serial number area in your picture......
Those were the pictures the widow sent me, so I’m not to blame for that :-)
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If buying an M1 Garand through the CMP, you have to order by mail using the specified order form according to their website. However, you can order parts and accessories by phone if they already have your information/verification documentation.
http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/ordering-information/
http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/ordering-information/
CMP is the best way to go and has been selling the Turkish returns for several weeks. More Garands coming form the Philippines will be released soon. For $730 delivered to your door you can get a good functioning rifle.
If you don't want to go the CMP route on the secondary market a good functioning garand can be bought for around $850-$900 if you take your time and look
If you don't want to go the CMP route on the secondary market a good functioning garand can be bought for around $850-$900 if you take your time and look
Another thing to remember is that most surplus Garands are arsenal rebuilds. That doesn't make them bad, it is just the way they are. Barrels, receivers, and bolts made by various manufacturers at various times.
An M1 is a fun rifle to shoot. It is a real rifle, which means it has a lot of felt recoil. My M1 was made in 1943. It can shoot better than me.
Attached is an anomaly for me. This was shot with open sights off of sandbags at Garland Public Shooting range in Garland, Texas a couple of years ago. Disregard the Eagle Peak notation on the target, the owner has two ranges. This will probably never happen again.
An M1 is a fun rifle to shoot. It is a real rifle, which means it has a lot of felt recoil. My M1 was made in 1943. It can shoot better than me.
Attached is an anomaly for me. This was shot with open sights off of sandbags at Garland Public Shooting range in Garland, Texas a couple of years ago. Disregard the Eagle Peak notation on the target, the owner has two ranges. This will probably never happen again.
OLDVET,
Fwiw, we docents of the USAMPC Museum (when the Museum was at Ft McClellan) tried HARD to find a NEW/UNFIRED or even in "near new" condition Garand for display. = We finally came to the conclusion that there are NONE outside of a FEW museums, that haven't been rebuilt at least once & some examples were rebuilt 4-5 times each.
NOTE: Fwiw, the USAOC Museum has serial #1 BUT they won't let anyone even look at it out of the glass case & even then from within 10 feet.
The Garand in the MP Museum is a "hand-picked" RRAD depot rebuilt M1. = The stock/handguards on the IH Garand has "more stripes than the average tiger", btw. = PURTY RIFLE!!!
yours, satx
Fwiw, we docents of the USAMPC Museum (when the Museum was at Ft McClellan) tried HARD to find a NEW/UNFIRED or even in "near new" condition Garand for display. = We finally came to the conclusion that there are NONE outside of a FEW museums, that haven't been rebuilt at least once & some examples were rebuilt 4-5 times each.
NOTE: Fwiw, the USAOC Museum has serial #1 BUT they won't let anyone even look at it out of the glass case & even then from within 10 feet.
The Garand in the MP Museum is a "hand-picked" RRAD depot rebuilt M1. = The stock/handguards on the IH Garand has "more stripes than the average tiger", btw. = PURTY RIFLE!!!
yours, satx
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Not sure what this is referring to. If you are referring to the description of the M1 rifle I have, I stand by my description. The major items are all Springfield. No mismatched parts. When I ordered it from CMP, I specified new wood. When the rifle arrived it looked like a current new production rifle Springfield builds today. That was not what I wanted. I ordered a second rifle. This time, I requested another rack grade rifle with a little "character". The second rifle was more what I had hoped for. Some guy somewhere carved his initials in the butt stock. I have since bought a Garand stock set for my first rifle that has some "character". It now looks more like the battle rifle it was intended to be.
P.S. - upon further inspection, I realized the target I previously posted has misinformation on it. The grouping was shot at 50 yards not the one hundred yards written on the target.
OLD VET,
Once the Filipino "returns" are uncrated/cleaned/available for sale, I plan to go to the South Store & pick myself an IHC & an H&R Garand SG, as I have NO Garand from either maker's production of rifles. - I may also look for a NICE Winchester, as mine is rather "doggy-looking", though all "corrected".
(I also don't have a BREDA-made Garand & doubt that I ever will have, as there seem to be FEW original BREDA-made Garands in the USA. = BREDA mostly assembled rifles, after WWII, from the parts bins upon a BREDA bare receiver.)
yours, satx
Once the Filipino "returns" are uncrated/cleaned/available for sale, I plan to go to the South Store & pick myself an IHC & an H&R Garand SG, as I have NO Garand from either maker's production of rifles. - I may also look for a NICE Winchester, as mine is rather "doggy-looking", though all "corrected".
(I also don't have a BREDA-made Garand & doubt that I ever will have, as there seem to be FEW original BREDA-made Garands in the USA. = BREDA mostly assembled rifles, after WWII, from the parts bins upon a BREDA bare receiver.)
yours, satx
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Got my second Garand at the San Antonio gun show 6 years ago. Father & son team there was selling it. They were big into shooting Garands in matches, and building them. Only thing I've done to mine is refinish the stock to my liking, and add national match sights, front & rear. I think that every shooter worth his salt should own and shoot an M-1 Garand.
When I shoot mine I think about the guys using them back during the wars. Being a veteran, I can imagine what it must have been like carrying that bad boy into combat. It makes one appreciate the stamina and endurance those soldiers must have had.
During basic training at Fort Bliss, I had to do a fifteen mile march in full gear and toting my M14. I can't imagine toting an M1 all over Europe during WWII. My fifteen miles was about fourteen miles too many.
The M1 rifle is an icon. It and the Colt 1911 and 1911A1 pistol will live on for forever.
During basic training at Fort Bliss, I had to do a fifteen mile march in full gear and toting my M14. I can't imagine toting an M1 all over Europe during WWII. My fifteen miles was about fourteen miles too many.
The M1 rifle is an icon. It and the Colt 1911 and 1911A1 pistol will live on for forever.
Hatcher's "Book of the m-1 Garand" is a very good source of info on the rifle. Hatcher was one of John Garands boss's, and was "there" as they say. It is very interesting reading. The M-1 was originally to be in .276 Pederson caliber, using TEN rounds in the enbloc clip. General McArthur said that wasn't gonna happen as we had millions upon millions of 30-06, and instructed Springfield Armory to build the new rifle around the current service round. This set back Garand for awhile as the .30-06 was a bigger round. If you don't have this book, you really owe it to yourself to get a copy. Very interesting read.
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