Breaking: Active shooter Santa Fe TX high school

benenglish · May 20, 2018

AustinN4 said:
What do you mean by this?

He posted a screenshot showing the shooter in a political context. The shot was widely circulated immediately after the shooting. Within hours (more likely, minutes) after the screenshot showed up, however, it was proved to be a fake.

SC-Texas caught his mistake and corrected it.

AustinN4 · May 20, 2018

benenglish said:
He posted a screenshot showing the shooter in a political context. The shot was widely circulated immediately after the shooting. Within hours (more likely, minutes) after the screenshot showed up, however, it was proved to be a fake.

SC-Texas caught his mistake and corrected it.

OK, thanks. For some reason I though he was saying HIS post had been photo shopped.

karlac · May 20, 2018

Interesting take on the "why":
https://www.nationalreview.com/corn...acebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=French

Excerpts:

"Those who advocate for gun control have an immediate answer — the prevalence of guns in the United States. Yet guns have been part of the fabric of American life for the entire history of our republic. Mass shootings — especially the most deadly mass shootings — are a far more recent phenomenon."

"In the day of Eric Harris, we could try to console ourselves with the thought that there was nothing we could do, that no law or intervention or restrictions on guns could make a difference in the face of someone so evil. But the riot has now engulfed the boys who were once content to play with chemistry sets in the basement. The problem is not that there is an endless supply of deeply disturbed young men who are willing to contemplate horrific acts. It’s worse. It’s that young men no longer need to be deeply disturbed to contemplate horrific acts."

AustinN4 · May 20, 2018

And, from the same web site:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/02/the-gun-control-debate-could-break-america/

MTA · May 20, 2018

General Zod said:
I knew for damn sure what was right and what was wrong as a teenager. Especially where harming other people was concerned. I might not have had violent video games, but I had Miami Vice making gunfights all pretty with cool music.

I grew up playing warcraft, doom, wolfenstein etc. The difference is my parents gave a shit and when they had something going on, I was with my uncles/aunts or grandparents. Some parents today are still children themselves and have no right to bringing in a kid that is more then likely going to be a shit head. These same parents let their kids be raised by the internet or tv.

The American family has been broken by the degenerates in hollywood and DC. Cut the cord, vote for patriots and raise your damn kids. Simple fix

SC-Texas · May 20, 2018

AustinN4 said:
What do you mean by this?

I posted something with a photoshopped photo and deleted it

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dapakattack · May 20, 2018

AustinN4 said:
...
“The courts ruled based on the idea that those 17 and younger don’t have the cognitive development to appreciate right from wrong,” said Michael Radelet, a University of Colorado at Boulder sociology professor who has testified in more than 75 death-penalty cases...

Yet, the District of Columbia wants to give 16 year olds the right to vote.

Lunyfringe · May 20, 2018

dapakattack said:
Yet, Democrats in the District of Columbia want to give 16 year olds the right to vote.

FIFY

Wildcat Diva · May 20, 2018

I just got my tickets to the Jordan Peterson talk that will be in Houston next week.

No doubt he will bring up the concern about this phenomenon of why these have happened and keep happening.

I’m excited to attend the lecture to gain more clarity, as that’s about all I can do other then the “clean your room” part of doing what I can personally first.

busykngt · May 20, 2018

oldag said:
Sadly with many parents today it would not take much hiding. Both parents pursuing their career, doing their own thing. No time for the kids. Not making family time happen.

No doubt a lot of truth here.

For this particular context, his parents were first generation immigrants from Greece. They lived in a house trailer in a mobile home park. (I’d guess they were just trying to scrape together survival... (in hopes of offering their child a better life... and then the kid goes and blows it ‘cause he’s lacking maturity and self-control at 17 years old).

He11, at 17 MY parent (dad) turned me (from a broken home, too) loose to backpack around Europe for six weeks. That was my graduation gift for finishing high school in three years. And I turned out, more-or-less, ok. As a teen, I was given plenty of rope to hang myself.... just had enough sense not to. (Well....there was that one time in Amsterdam’s redlight Canal District...). (Okay... ya got me, and another time in Paris’ Pagale (pig alley) District.... but hey(!), that was just fun times growing up.... what can I say?)

Sam7sf · May 20, 2018

Busykngt, one thing are youth could use more of is seeing the world then coming back to America and saying "wow, our country is pretty great". I know what a jungle is like with natives who just have underwear, shoes, basic tools, and a fishing net. Yet their happy. Though I don't recommend Mexico travel these days.

PhulesAu · May 20, 2018

"But the riot has now engulfed the boys who were once content to play with chemistry sets in the basement"

But we banned Chemistry sets. (Basically) Because Cancer Explosions Blah Blah Blah

busykngt · May 20, 2018

Sam7sf, agree wholeheartedly with what you said. To that, I might add, today’s kids also don’t know what hard work is (too much x-box time). Cutting and sticking tobacco in ninety degree temps (& about that much humidity); learning (quickly) to wear long sleeves shirts when helping your great-uncle bail hay so your forearms don’t turn into a bloody mess. And stacking those 80 pound bails up, into the top of a 120-deg barn loft. Tilling and hoeing your grandmother’s quarter acre food garden every summer. Taking care of the hogs and cattle - all good honest work I did every summer as a teen growing up in Kentucky.

Guns were in every family member’s house growing up. My dad’s shotguns were never “locked up” and stayed in a room next to my bedroom, not more than twenty feet away from my bed! I never even thought about touching them (unless it was dove season). My aunt knew what she was doing in the kitchen when my uncle and cousin and I came back to the house with a truck bed full of squirrels (Winchester Boy’s rifle .22 single shot - I got about 9 or 10 years old - still have it!).

Last sentence of Karlac’s post / quote is a scary thought (but true, I’m afraid).

busykngt · May 20, 2018

Wildcat Diva said:
I’m excited to attend the lecture...

Wildcat Diva, I would hope you share some of your “take aways” from this lecture, with us. I too, am looking for more clarity on this topic. It just remains unfathomable to me...

benenglish · May 20, 2018

Wildcat Diva said:
I’m excited to attend the lecture...

With resellers charging ~$150 for good seats, I'll pass. I really wish I had been on whatever mailing list would have tipped me off when they first became available.

pronstar · May 20, 2018

Wildcat Diva said:
Here is another piece of this: I’m seeing an article on The Daily Wire say that the first person he shot was a girl who he had been hitting on for months, and who had repeatedly turned him down. Girl’s mother said that girl had finally got sick of the unwanted advances and finally embarrassed him in class over it the week before the shooting.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/3085...m_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

Thinking aloud, I see a kid who’s parents never told him”no”.
When his crush tells him “no” he’s not equipped to handle it.
So he keeps pestering.

When she’s had enough, she tells him”no” in a way that he’s sure to acknowledge, publicly.

This pushed him over the edge and he goes ape shit.

Fathers, this has got to be your worst nightmare. Teaching your daughter to have the strength to say “no”, then some creep kills her and shoots up a school because of it.

All of the above is based on nothing but my own armchair quarterbacking.

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busykngt · May 20, 2018

Pron, kinda what I’ve been thinking. Through his own words (so far), he didn’t shoot some, whom he liked or considered friends. To me, it just brings in the whole question of maturity. Not to oversimplify it - I’m sure there’s more facets to the whole mess - but handling rejection seems to have played a big role in it. Whether it’s from a girl or other perceived “bullies”, something was missing in his maturing process. Maybe it’s the old, ‘everybody gets a trophy’ thing? [Me, also, admittedly, ‘Monday Morning’ quarterbacking]

Sam7sf · May 20, 2018

So his heart was broken and he felt rejected. Just shows how much evil was in his heart to handle it that way.

busykngt · May 20, 2018

Personally, I’d like hear what his Greek Orthodox Priest would have to say about him. As far as I know, that guy hasn’t been interviewed. His comments could be most interesting... (or not?)....

Sam7sf · May 20, 2018

Who knows. His comments don't really matter. The kid became corrupted.

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