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    Recently on this site I was told I looked foolish because I didn't know the difference between Social Marxism and Communist Marxism. I made a statement about the outcome being the same and was berated. They said the difference in outcomes was explained by the fact social Marxism was elected by vote and not at the end of a rifle. It made me try to find the difference and what I found was very enlightening. I'm new to the site but maybe some will also find interesting that I posted this.
    Marxism:
    the political, economic, and social theories of Karl Marx including the belief that the struggle between social classes is a major force in history and that there should eventually be a society in which there are no classes
    Definition of Cultural Marxism:
    Cultural Marxism: An offshoot of Marxism that gave birth to political correctness, multiculturalism and "anti-racism." Unlike traditional Marxism that focuses on economics, Cultural Marxism focuses on culture and maintains that all human behavior is a result of culture (not heredity / race) and thus malleable. Cultural Marxists absurdly deny the biological reality of gender and race and argue that gender and race are “social constructs”. Nonetheless, Cultural Marxists support the race-based identity politics of non-whites. Cultural Marxists typically support race-based affirmative action, the proposition state (as opposed to a nation rooted in common ancestry), elevating non-Western religions above Western religions, speech codes and censorship, multiculturalism, diversity training, anti-Western education curricula, maladaptive sexual norms and anti-male feminism, the dispossession of white people, and mass Third World immigration into Western countries. Cultural Marxists have promoted idea that white people, instead of birthing white babies, should interracially marry or adopt non-white children. Samuel P. Huntington maintained that Cultural Marxism is an anti-white ideology. Critics of Cultural Marxism have maintained that Cultural Marxists intend to commit genocide against white people through mass non-white immigration, assimilation, transracial adoption and miscegenation.
    Concepts to oppose Cultural Marxism:
    Genophilia: The love of one's own race. A natural instinct that Cultural Marxists want to deny (at least for whites).
    Identitarian Religion: An older form of religion that stresses ancestral obligations. Adamantly opposed by Christian Cultural Marxists (at least for whites). Throughout nearly all human history, identitarian religion (aka, ethno-religion), has been the norm.
    Leukophobia: The irrational fear of whites organizing racially.
    Nation: The very word 'nation' (from Latin 'nasci') implies link by blood. The traditional (non-Marxist) understanding of nation implies racial homogeneity. (Until very recently Europe has always been racially homogenous and USA, in 1960 census, was 90% white.)
    Notable Quotes:
    "The very essence of Cultural Marxism is the support of mass immigration / open borders."
    "The end goal of Cultural Marxists is white genocide."
    "Political correctness is Cultural Marxism."
    "Cultural Marxists have taken over the institutions of the media, education, mainstream Christianity (conservative and liberal), law, and finance. Their goal is the annihilation of Western Civilization in general and white people in particular."
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    Recently on this site I was told I looked foolish because I didn't know the difference between Social Marxism and Communist Marxism. I made a statement about the outcome being the same and was berated. They said the difference in outcomes was explained by the fact social Marxism was elected by vote and not at the end of a rifle. It made me try to find the difference and what I found was very enlightening. I'm new to the site but maybe some will also find interesting that I posted this.
    Marxism:
    the political, economic, and social theories of Karl Marx including the belief that the struggle between social classes is a major force in history and that there should eventually be a society in which there are no classes
    Definition of Cultural Marxism:
    Cultural Marxism: An offshoot of Marxism that gave birth to political correctness, multiculturalism and "anti-racism." Unlike traditional Marxism that focuses on economics, Cultural Marxism focuses on culture and maintains that all human behavior is a result of culture (not heredity / race) and thus malleable. Cultural Marxists absurdly deny the biological reality of gender and race and argue that gender and race are “social constructs”. Nonetheless, Cultural Marxists support the race-based identity politics of non-whites. Cultural Marxists typically support race-based affirmative action, the proposition state (as opposed to a nation rooted in common ancestry), elevating non-Western religions above Western religions, speech codes and censorship, multiculturalism, diversity training, anti-Western education curricula, maladaptive sexual norms and anti-male feminism, the dispossession of white people, and mass Third World immigration into Western countries. Cultural Marxists have promoted idea that white people, instead of birthing white babies, should interracially marry or adopt non-white children. Samuel P. Huntington maintained that Cultural Marxism is an anti-white ideology. Critics of Cultural Marxism have maintained that Cultural Marxists intend to commit genocide against white people through mass non-white immigration, assimilation, transracial adoption and miscegenation.
    Concepts to oppose Cultural Marxism:
    Genophilia: The love of one's own race. A natural instinct that Cultural Marxists want to deny (at least for whites).
    Identitarian Religion: An older form of religion that stresses ancestral obligations. Adamantly opposed by Christian Cultural Marxists (at least for whites). Throughout nearly all human history, identitarian religion (aka, ethno-religion), has been the norm.
    Leukophobia: The irrational fear of whites organizing racially.
    Nation: The very word 'nation' (from Latin 'nasci') implies link by blood. The traditional (non-Marxist) understanding of nation implies racial homogeneity. (Until very recently Europe has always been racially homogenous and USA, in 1960 census, was 90% white.)
    Notable Quotes:
    "The very essence of Cultural Marxism is the support of mass immigration / open borders."
    "The end goal of Cultural Marxists is white genocide."
    "Political correctness is Cultural Marxism."
    "Cultural Marxists have taken over the institutions of the media, education, mainstream Christianity (conservative and liberal), law, and finance. Their goal is the annihilation of Western Civilization in general and white people in particular."

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    Not to worry. Either way, these ideologies are a threat to freedom and liberty. Rules for Radicals written by Saul Alinsky details what has been happening the last 50 years. It's been a slow gradual process that has undermined our society. Because if this slow process, we have become numb and acclimatized to these "rot." Until this crap is challenged and eliminated expect more of this nonsense.

    You see it today in the shooting that took place today in TX, to abolishing pray in schools, welfare, destruction of the family etc.... I could elaborate and go in and on, but won't bore everyone on this.

    Gun owners who don't secure their firearms give all of us a black eye. Yuck!


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    motorcarman

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    I really don't care about the differences between socialists/marxists/communists because they all have some sort of utopia that cannot be obtained or MAINTAINED.

    Capitalism is based more on reality than anything else. You WILL work harder for yourself than for someone else.
    (I am selfish, but not greedy)

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    Sam7sf

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    Not to worry. Either way, these ideologies are a threat to freedom and liberty. Rules for Radicals written by Saul Alinsky details what has been happening the last 50 years. It's been a slow gradual process that has undermined our society. Because if this slow process, we have become numb and acclimatized to these "rot." Until this crap is challenged and eliminated expect more of this nonsense.

    You see it today in the shooting that took place today in TX, to abolishing pray in schools, welfare, destruction of the family etc.... I could elaborate and go in and on, but won't bore everyone on this.

    Gun owners who don't secure their firearms give all of us a black eye. Yuck!


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    100 percent this. Btw op, don't let people get to you. The difference in those terms isn't worth getting worked up about. They are both ways of the degenerate. :)

    Yeah...so it's true this infestation has embedded itself into our culture. The left is a good example. They are too accepting of government. They hate the type of regulated capitalism we have that promotes financial freedom from bad jobs; don't like it? Go work for yourself and produce your own product and generate your own msrp. Yet these fart knockers fail to see it this way and say all business is evil.
     

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    I really don't care about the differences between socialists/marxists/communists because they all have some sort of utopia that cannot be obtained or MAINTAINED.

    Capitalism is based more on reality than anything else. You WILL work harder for yourself than for someone else.
    (I am selfish, but not greedy)

    bob

    Exactly! We all work on behalf of our self-interest. Just as I donate to charity according to my self-interest. I am not coerced or force to do. A product of my own labor and hard work. Leftists view hard work and fruits of your labor as greedy.


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    cherok2e

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    Not to worry. Either way, these ideologies are a threat to freedom and liberty. Rules for Radicals written by Saul Alinsky details what has been happening the last 50 years. It's been a slow gradual process that has undermined our society. Because if this slow process, we have become numb and acclimatized to these "rot." Until this crap is challenged and eliminated expect more of this nonsense.

    You see it today in the shooting that took place today in TX, to abolishing pray in schools, welfare, destruction of the family etc.... I could elaborate and go in and on, but won't bore everyone on this.

    Gun owners who don't secure their firearms give all of us a black eye. Yuck!


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    There are several issues in their ideologies that have caused us problems. It was strange trying to figure how the youth were 32% committed to socialism and this explains it. Academia has been indoctrinating them slowly without parental awareness. The ostracizing during political correctness made people afraid to speak out against it and it silently took over.
    The only part of the educational process missing was that the outcome, of this Marxism, will be the same as the communistic. This is the part they don't seem to believe.
    The young shooter had been affected by the gender and masculinity agenda goals as has been evidenced in some other events.
    Unfortunately we are behind the curve and this has become as deep a problem as the Islamic fundamentalism and will be difficult to turn around.
    If we ignore the depth of this problem, like we have been 0n some items in this manifesto, we are going to regret the long and difficult fight we will face.
     
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    cherok2e

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    I really don't care about the differences between socialists/marxists/communists because they all have some sort of utopia that cannot be obtained or MAINTAINED.

    Capitalism is based more on reality than anything else. You WILL work harder for yourself than for someone else.
    (I am selfish, but not greedy)

    bob
    But you are missing the point of our youth believing differently. They think the outcome will be utopia, hence, the need for touchy feely answers to their conflicts, coloring rooms, pets for comfort in schools and quiet rooms.
    They cannot face the truth and reality about the real world. Too many trophies for showing up and not working for what they got. Look at the parents that have changed the rules in education because their child didn't make the grade.
     

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    Recently on this site I was told I looked foolish because I didn't know the difference between Social Marxism and Communist Marxism.
    You've mentioned this a few times now... Why did it bother you so much? :laughing:


    : The very word 'nation' (from Latin 'nasci') implies link by blood. The traditional (non-Marxist) understanding of nation implies racial homogeneity. (Until very recently Europe has always been racially homogenous and USA, in 1960 census, was 90% white.)
    The historical context of this word is definitely interesting, but I think that changed in 1791. Yes the US was (is?) mostly WASPs, but the allegiance was to the ideals, not biological identities.

    But you are missing the point of our youth believing differently. They think the outcome will be utopia...
    Happens with every generation. Youthful exuberance and nativity are wonderful and terrifying at the same time.
     

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    Recently on this site I was told I looked foolish because I didn't know the difference between Social Marxism and Communist Marxism. I made a statement about the outcome being the same and was berated. They said the difference in outcomes was explained by the fact social Marxism was elected by vote and not at the end of a rifle. It made me try to find the difference and what I found was very enlightening. I'm new to the site but maybe some will also find interesting that I posted this.
    Marxism:
    the political, economic, and social theories of Karl Marx including the belief that the struggle between social classes is a major force in history and that there should eventually be a society in which there are no classes
    Definition of Cultural Marxism:
    Cultural Marxism: An offshoot of Marxism that gave birth to political correctness, multiculturalism and "anti-racism." Unlike traditional Marxism that focuses on economics, Cultural Marxism focuses on culture and maintains that all human behavior is a result of culture (not heredity / race) and thus malleable. Cultural Marxists absurdly deny the biological reality of gender and race and argue that gender and race are “social constructs”. Nonetheless, Cultural Marxists support the race-based identity politics of non-whites. Cultural Marxists typically support race-based affirmative action, the proposition state (as opposed to a nation rooted in common ancestry), elevating non-Western religions above Western religions, speech codes and censorship, multiculturalism, diversity training, anti-Western education curricula, maladaptive sexual norms and anti-male feminism, the dispossession of white people, and mass Third World immigration into Western countries. Cultural Marxists have promoted idea that white people, instead of birthing white babies, should interracially marry or adopt non-white children. Samuel P. Huntington maintained that Cultural Marxism is an anti-white ideology. Critics of Cultural Marxism have maintained that Cultural Marxists intend to commit genocide against white people through mass non-white immigration, assimilation, transracial adoption and miscegenation.
    Concepts to oppose Cultural Marxism:
    Genophilia: The love of one's own race. A natural instinct that Cultural Marxists want to deny (at least for whites).
    Identitarian Religion: An older form of religion that stresses ancestral obligations. Adamantly opposed by Christian Cultural Marxists (at least for whites). Throughout nearly all human history, identitarian religion (aka, ethno-religion), has been the norm.
    Leukophobia: The irrational fear of whites organizing racially.
    Nation: The very word 'nation' (from Latin 'nasci') implies link by blood. The traditional (non-Marxist) understanding of nation implies racial homogeneity. (Until very recently Europe has always been racially homogenous and USA, in 1960 census, was 90% white.)
    Notable Quotes:
    "The very essence of Cultural Marxism is the support of mass immigration / open borders."
    "The end goal of Cultural Marxists is white genocide."
    "Political correctness is Cultural Marxism."
    "Cultural Marxists have taken over the institutions of the media, education, mainstream Christianity (conservative and liberal), law, and finance. Their goal is the annihilation of Western Civilization in general and white people in particular."
    Not sure who said that, but I doubt they knew themselves. I don't the difference, nor do I care. All that and this is, nothing but an esoteric discussion of old concepts and political theory. Politics is ever changing. The best example of that is the Democratic Party, I came from a Democratic family and a state (Texas) that had voted Dem forever and a day. But look where the Dems are today. A recent survey of the Democrat party puts Socialism favored by 41% of the voters. The term "Progressive" is just another term for modern day communism, where you worship the Govt and its leader and not a higher entity such as GOD.

    If the Dems had their way today:

    No American citizen would own any kind of firearm

    Post birth abortions would be legal

    Our borders would be wide open to all who want to come

    Our Constitution and its Bill of Rights would be gone

    And that is just for starters.

    So wasting time on obscure and arcane discussions what Marx meant when solves no problems and fails to address how its morphed into the cancer it was then and is today.
     

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    Not sure who said that, but I doubt they knew themselves. I don't the difference, nor do I care. All that and this is, nothing but an esoteric discussion of old concepts and political theory. Politics is ever changing. The best example of that is the Democratic Party, I came from a Democratic family and a state (Texas) that had voted Dem forever and a day. But look where the Dems are today. A recent survey of the Democrat party puts Socialism favored by 41% of the voters. The term "Progressive" is just another term for modern day communism, where you worship the Govt and its leader and not a higher entity such as GOD.

    If the Dems had their way today:

    No American citizen would own any kind of firearm

    Post birth abortions would be legal

    Our borders would be wide open to all who want to come

    Our Constitution and its Bill of Rights would be gone

    And that is just for starters.

    So wasting time on obscure and arcane discussions what Marx meant when solves no problems and fails to address how its morphed into the cancer it was then and is today.
    Correct! I agree!
     

    Mowingmaniac 24/7

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    I'm with MTA89 with a caveat.

    First, Pro-gunners fighting 2nd A haters here in the good old U.S.A. as a warm up.

    Then onto WW111.

    Whoever wins can get any Marxist award they want as long as it's a Groucho Marx award.
     

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    I remember when the hippies started communes looking for a Utopia. Now the offspring of those communes have destroyed once beautiful cities like Portland, Or. That worked out well.
     
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