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  • Vaquero

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    Believe it.
    The largest cities in TX are as bad as Seattle.
    They just can't match the rural areas. Yet.
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    Sam7sf

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    Is the fort worth area bad? As for austin...lets put it this way: I'm the rare exception in my family and threw the work/connections my dad and sister have, there are a lot of folks outside of Texas and in the university there that think they are the answer to Texas. The same snoody trash is what destroyed the areas in Oregon I mentioned. That's all I'm saying. That I see Austin as being like corvallis and its not good. Its really disgusting how a lot of professors view Austin vs the rest of Texas.
     

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    College connections. It gets a lot of worship by the left.
    I still don't get what you are implying. Those 4 cities already vote majority blue, not just Austin. So did some of the other smaller cities, mostly along the border but also Beaumont/Port Arthur. (2016):

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    Is the fort worth area bad? As for austin...lets put it this way: I'm the rare exception in my family and threw the work/connections my dad and sister have, there are a lot of folks outside of Texas and in the university there that think they are the answer to Texas. The same snoody trash is what destroyed the areas in Oregon I mentioned. That's all I'm saying. That I see Austin as being like corvallis and its not good. Its really disgusting how a lot of professors view Austin vs the rest of Texas.
    Fort Worth is pinkish in the above map, meaning it is not as red as the most of the smaller counties in the state.
     

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    I'm opposed to this for a variety of reasons. We don't need more federal laws, state laws are sufficient to deal with this issue (and they already do for the most part). This also seems like another major abuse of the interstate commerce clause, and IMO could potentially violate a person's natural right to self defense in some situations.

    There have been cases where police have made up an assault allegation (Olmos Park, TX for example) if the Feds get involved in this that would be another layer of government an individual would have to defend themselves from legally.

    I am for equal protection under the law.

    Completely opposed to any sort of class society or levels of citizenship. MY life is just as important as any one else and MORE SO to me.
     

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    I will give ALL advice and you take or not:

    Live outside of the city limits of anything, do no live in a community or any kind of housing development even rural. You goal should be to eliminate as much govt from your life as you can. Ideally you want your deed to say "Unrestricted" Acreage, drink water from your well and have a septic system. Apply the 'Pizz Test' which is can you go outside and take a pizz on your property and not worry about someone seeing you.

    Local govt's are out of control the pay and benefits for city and state employees is unsustainable without crushing taxes. In many cities you can retire at 20 years with 75% pay and 100% at 30 years, plus lifetime medical for which you pay in almost nothing and all that is boosted by the "high 3" and "high 5" averaging that takes retirement pay to as much as 50% over what they were getting paid. Its all Union work and they have no intentions of giving up any pay or benefits as long as they can just raise your taxes.

    The next Dem that takes office will bring the communist-socialist dream to reality thru taxation.
     
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    benenglish

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    Local govt's are out of control the pay and benefits for city and state employees is unsustainable without crushing taxes. In many cities you can retire at 20 years with 75% pay and 100% at 30 years, plus lifetime medical for which you pay in almost nothing and all that is boosted by the "high 3" and "high 5" averaging...
    The United States Civil Service Retirement System didn't offer pensions nearly that high; the lifetime medical it offered was solidly discounted but not anything approaching cheap. Nevertheless, the federal government shut it down in 1982 because it was considered unsustainably expensive. It was replaced with the Federal Employee Retirement System which is basically just a 401K and social security plus a ridiculously small pension that only fully kicks in at 30 years service. The various insurance programs available under the program are pretty expensive, only marginally discounted from the private sector.

    I find it odd that the feds were able to see a problem on the horizon and fix it 30 years before more local governments got smacked with the results of not fixing the problem. Usually the federal government lags behind in finding solutions.
     

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    I don't know about the new plans(they're worse) but in the 80's Dallas Police and Fire pension was 50% after 20 maxed at 75% after 30. Current cost for medical thru the city is abt $1200/month.
     

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    The United States Civil Service Retirement System didn't offer pensions nearly that high; the lifetime medical it offered was solidly discounted but not anything approaching cheap. Nevertheless, the federal government shut it down in 1982 because it was considered unsustainably expensive. It was replaced with the Federal Employee Retirement System which is basically just a 401K and social security plus a ridiculously small pension that only fully kicks in at 30 years service. The various insurance programs available under the program are pretty expensive, only marginally discounted from the private sector.

    I find it odd that the feds were able to see a problem on the horizon and fix it 30 years before more local governments got smacked with the results of not fixing the problem. Usually the federal government lags behind in finding solutions.
    Actually, the similar to 401K, Thrift Savings Plan is better, plus the government as of yet can't touch it. The pension actually doesn't kick in until you are 62 years or older, the percentage is based on years in service.
     

    F350-6

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    I will give ALL advice and you take or not:

    Live outside of the city limits of anything, do no live in a community or any kind of housing development even rural. You goal should be to eliminate as much govt from your life as you can. Ideally you want your deed to say "Unrestricted" Acreage, drink water from your well and have a septic system. Apply the 'Pizz Test' which is can you go outside and take a pizz on your property and not worry about someone seeing you.

    Sounds all well and good, but you've got to dig into it further. How far out are you? What about future annexation? (just signed a petition in this county about forced annexation).

    And even passing the pizz test, some places still have regulations about what type of septic you can install or how much water you can pull from your own well.
     

    Sam7sf

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    The next Dem that takes office will bring the communist-socialist dream to reality thru taxation.
    They will just eventually say communism. The brainwashed left has been gradually getting worse and openly accepting of communism and other forms of government to replace our system. Some don't even hide it anymore.
     
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