Texas Attorney General: To stop School Shootings, Use Israel's Approach

Sam7sf · May 25, 2018

AustinN4 said:
Way to go! You tell'em!

Yeah! Lol.

Sam7sf · May 25, 2018

TheMailMan said:
You're not forced to drive on Toll roads here. At least we have roads here in Texas. Oregon hasn't built a new freeway in how long?

Yooouuu don't need roads. Jk. Lol.

ZX9RCAM · May 25, 2018

TheMailMan said:
Oregon plates are good for two years. If you live in a metro area you have to go to DEQ to be inspected. There's no sales tax but there is a 9% or higher income tax. If you live in Portland there's the Art tax.

You're not forced to drive on Toll roads here. At least we have roads here in Texas. Oregon hasn't built a new freeway in how long?

Hunting and fishing licenses here are MUCH cheaper than Oregon. You're also allowed to take more than one deer. You can fish with as many rods as you want without having to pay extra for it.

I'm a 100% disabled Veteran. Texas, for me is a much better place. In Oregon I got a free hunting and fishing license but still had to buy all the other tags and endorsements. I had free plates on one vehicle. I received a 6% discount on my property taxes. That's about it.

Here in Texas I get a free Super Combo Pack for hunting and fishing. All I need to buy is a Federal Duck Stamp if I want to hunt waterfowl. It runs me $3 a year for one vehicle and my 3/4 ton truck is about $70 a year. I pay no property taxes, I get a free drivers license and discounted LTC. I don't have to pay any income tax either.

Let's not get into the much lower cost of living here in Texas.

No income tax?
Is that due to 100% disabled vet?

easy rider · May 25, 2018

TheMailMan said:
Oregon plates are good for two years. If you live in a metro area you have to go to DEQ to be inspected. There's no sales tax but there is a 9% or higher income tax. If you live in Portland there's the Art tax.

You're not forced to drive on Toll roads here. At least we have roads here in Texas. Oregon hasn't built a new freeway in how long?

Hunting and fishing licenses here are MUCH cheaper than Oregon. You're also allowed to take more than one deer. You can fish with as many rods as you want without having to pay extra for it.

I'm a 100% disabled Veteran. Texas, for me is a much better place. In Oregon I got a free hunting and fishing license but still had to buy all the other tags and endorsements. I had free plates on one vehicle. I received a 6% discount on my property taxes. That's about it.

Here in Texas I get a free Super Combo Pack for hunting and fishing. All I need to buy is a Federal Duck Stamp if I want to hunt waterfowl. It runs me $3 a year for one vehicle and my 3/4 ton truck is about $70 a year. I pay no property taxes, I get a free drivers license and discounted LTC. I don't have to pay any income tax either.

Let's not get into the much lower cost of living here in Texas.

Funny, my Oregon plates were good for 4 years.

TheMailMan · May 25, 2018

ZX9RCAM said:
No income tax?
Is that due to 100% disabled vet?

If you mean property tax then yes it's due to being 100% broken.

dapakattack · May 25, 2018

toddnjoyce said:
While I admire Ken Paxton’s ability to get a “guns aren’t the problem” piece in USAyesterday, ask yourself this: How much will it cost and who’s going to pay?...

The citizens of Allen ISD passed a bond package a few years back to build a freakin Football stadium of $62 Million (which needed repairs within a couple years of opening). McKinney, Frisco, and others have followed suit. I think the money can be found somewhere.

toddnjoyce said:
...
There’s about 93,000 schools serving 50 million students daily. Let’s assume we harden up all those targets. What do you do about sports stadiums, parking lots, bus stops, and off-campus events?...

In most cases, there already is a police presence at stadiums for sporting events and off-campus events such as graduations.

ZX9RCAM · May 25, 2018

TheMailMan said:
If you mean property tax then yes it's due to being 100% broken.

I'm sorry, I totally misread that and don't know how.

ETA: I didn't misread it.
You DO state that you don't pay any income tax.
Why is that?

Sam7sf · May 25, 2018

TheMailMan said:
Oregon plates are good for two years. If you live in a metro area you have to go to DEQ to be inspected. There's no sales tax but there is a 9% or higher income tax. If you live in Portland there's the Art tax.

You're not forced to drive on Toll roads here. At least we have roads here in Texas. Oregon hasn't built a new freeway in how long?

Hunting and fishing licenses here are MUCH cheaper than Oregon. You're also allowed to take more than one deer. You can fish with as many rods as you want without having to pay extra for it.

I'm a 100% disabled Veteran. Texas, for me is a much better place. In Oregon I got a free hunting and fishing license but still had to buy all the other tags and endorsements. I had free plates on one vehicle. I received a 6% discount on my property taxes. That's about it.

Here in Texas I get a free Super Combo Pack for hunting and fishing. All I need to buy is a Federal Duck Stamp if I want to hunt waterfowl. It runs me $3 a year for one vehicle and my 3/4 ton truck is about $70 a year. I pay no property taxes, I get a free drivers license and discounted LTC. I don't have to pay any income tax either.

Let's not get into the much lower cost of living here in Texas.

I don't live in the metro area. You can't file 9 percent in Oregon and not get raped. Oregon's art tax is a complete pile of shat. As far as roads in Oregon go...oregon needs an audit. Its all I can say. This state has been shady for decades. I do not believe in tolls though. Want to collect funds from my check? My property tax? Fine. Just do not bother me asking for money as I'm traveling enjoying my day or say I need a toll tag in my truck to travel. And oregon doesn't need more roads. It needs walls to prevent Californians and folks from Washington traveling in.

As far as hunting I look forward to Texas.

AustinN4 · May 25, 2018

easy rider said:
Funny, my Oregon plates were good for 4 years.

It's 'cause you are special.

easy rider · May 25, 2018

No, that was how long the tabs were good for. I bought my bike in 2011, didn't get Texas plates until 2015. My other vehicles I sold before travelling the country.

toddnjoyce · May 25, 2018

dapakattack said:
The citizens of Allen ISD passed a bond package a few years back to build a freakin Football stadium of $62 Million.

Very familiar with that bond issue. School bonds in TX are repaid thru property tax.

dapakattack said:
In most cases, there already is a police presence at stadiums for sporting events and off-campus events such as graduations.

I’ve been involved in NSSE execution at sporting event facilities on 3 continents. Even USSS protection measures focus on the principal and not everyone.

When you declare the principals of a protection mission are 3,000 students, it’s not achievable.

diesel1959 · May 25, 2018

ZX9RCAM said:
I'm sorry, I totally misread that and don't know how.

ETA: I didn't misread it.
You DO state that you don't pay any income tax.
Why is that?

I'm assuming his disability pay is not taxed, just like mine.

toddnjoyce · May 25, 2018

diesel1959 said:
I'm assuming his disability pay is not taxed, just like mine.

VA Disability is not income, so it cannot be taxed as income at the federal or state level.

Some states (gasp) have an income tax. I’ve never been to Oregon, so I don’t know the rules for Oregon.

By the grace of God, I was born in Texas, went to school in Texas, joined the military in Texas, spent a career around the US and world, then retired in the Great State of.

Other than federal income taxes, I’ve never paid a state income tax. I’ve heard they exist, though.

easy rider · May 25, 2018

Texas is one of seven states with no state tax.

easy rider · May 25, 2018

New York state is actually the worst.

AustinN4 · May 25, 2018

easy rider said:
Texas is one of seven states with no state tax.

https://www.nasdaq.com/article/9-states-with-no-income-tax-cm930874

But then there is this:
https://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/state-with-no-income-tax-better-or-worse-1.aspx

easy rider · May 25, 2018

That must have changed from a few years ago then.

dapakattack · May 25, 2018

toddnjoyce said:
Very familiar with that bond issue. School bonds in TX are repaid thru property tax.

I’ve been involved in NSSE execution at sporting event facilities on 3 continents. Even USSS protection measures focus on the principal and not everyone.

When you declare the principals of a protection mission are 3,000 students, it’s not achievable.

I'm just saying that football is such a high priority that property owners are willing to pay. Why not try to pass a bond to pay for School security?

Have there been multiple mass shootings at HS sporting events, graduations, drama productions, etc where a police presence tends to be the norm? Potential shooters know that there will be armed officers at those events that will provide some resistance, hence they do not target them.

majormadmax · May 26, 2018

dapakattack said:
I'm just saying that football is such a high priority that property owners are willing to pay. Why not try to pass a bond to pay for School security?

Have there been multiple mass shootings at HS sporting events, graduations, drama productions, etc where a police presence tends to be the norm? Potential shooters know that there will be armed officers at those events that will provide some resistance, hence they do not target them.

San Antonio's Northside ISD just passed a $850M bond that included $34.M in safety and security measures (i.e. security lobbies, door hardware, video surveillance, etc.). NISD also has its own police department of commissioned peace officers licensed by the State of Texas that include patrol and campus officers. There are two Northside officers assigned to each high school campus, one officer assigned to each middle school campus, and one officer assigned to each alternative school and three special school campuses to protect persons and property on the campus and prevent unauthorized individuals from entering the campus.

TheMailMan · May 26, 2018

ZX9RCAM said:
I'm sorry, I totally misread that and don't know how.

ETA: I didn't misread it.
You DO state that you don't pay any income tax.
Why is that?

In Oregon I would have to pay income tax on my retirement and my SSDI. Here in Texas there is no income tax. At the Federal level my retirement and SSDI don't add up to enough to have to pay taxes.

It's nice. Neither the wife or I have to have anything withheld and at the end of the year we owe $0.

Thankfully the largest part of my income, VA Disability, isn't taxed.

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