Texas Republican Party Endorses Marijuana Decriminalization

OFFascist · Jun 17, 2018

I believe this is the full platform the RPT came up with for those that are curious.

https://www.texasgop.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/PLATFORM-for-voting.pdf

vmax · Jun 17, 2018

grasshopperglock said:
Hmmm. We have two liberal media outlets supporting your view. The homeless issue is liberal policy. Denver now requires you to register your AR. I'm not clicking those links.

Environmental impact??? That's an absolute lie on their part. Industrial hemp has been grown before. One trait of cannabis, is that it cleans soil. Any pollution in the dirt is taken up by the plant. Paper, textiles, and plastics can be made of such but you're not told that. You have to research it on your part. No spoon.

The ER being filled up? That's an old one. Remember it's for the safety of children.

Sounds like funding from big pharma. No mention of pi$sed out pills messing with your fresh water...

I don’t care what you want to smoke, eat, chew, shoot in your arm, injest, drink or otherwise

Here are my rules :

1. Do it on your property or property where the lawful owner is okay with it.

2. Don’t drive or do anything else out in public where the effects of what you are smoking, eating, chewing, shooting in your arm, injesting or drinking, can cause you to kill or harm other people.

3. I don’t want to pay for your medical bills, or your lazy ass when you don’t work and need to eat or in any other way shape or fashion be encumbered by your expense to society including crime like theft, prostitution, murder, or larceny that people commit so they can get money to pay for their drugs.

You do whatever you want to , as long as you can pay for it and it doesn’t end up hurting anyone else and costing the taxpayers in any way.

My impact on society is a net positive. In other words, I am self sustaining. I work , pay taxes, am involved in civic activities and volunteer monthly at a food bank and other places. I fully support a family of 4, who also are no charge to society and volunteer in the community every week.
Just by looking at mugshots every day, I see most of the arrest are somehow drug related. These people are a DRAIN on my community and cost money to support that is paid by people like me.

So you can do anything with your body that you want to as long as your are not a drain on society and cost other people money.

Lunyfringe · Jun 17, 2018

Everybody complaining about peeps moving here and F'ing up Texas, but you're willing to screw it up yourselves if you legalize weed... decriminalizing is just a step on the path.

Those endorsing taxing recreation will ruin this state.

Lunyfringe · Jun 17, 2018

vmax said:
I don’t care what you what to smoke, eat, chew, shoot in your arm, injest, drink or otherwise

Here are my rules :

1. Do it on your property or property where the lawful owner is okay with it.

2. Don’t drive or do anything else out in public where the effects of what you are smoking, eating, chewing, shooting in your arm, injesting or drinking, can cause you to kill or harm other people.

3. I don’t want to pay for your medical bills, or your lazy ass when you don’t work and need to eat or in any other way shape or fashion be encumbered by your expense to society including crime like theft, prostitution, murder, or larceny that people commit so they can get money to pay for their drugs.

You do whatever you want to , as long as you can pay for it and it doesn’t end up hurting anyone else and costing the taxpayers in any way.

My impact on society is a net positive. In other words, I am self sustaining. I work , pay taxes, am involved in civic activities and volunteer monthly at a food bank and other places. I fully support a family of 4, who also are no charge to society and volunteer in the community every week.
Just by looking at mugshots every day, I see most of the arrest are somehow drug related. These people are a DRAIN on my community and cost money to support that is paid by people like me.

So you can do anything with your body that you want to as long as your are not a drain on society and cost other people money.

ALL of these WILL happen if you legalize recrational MJ... even if you don't believe me, I'll search up this post and be the biggest "I told you so" asshole youve ever seen.

sidebite252 · Jun 17, 2018

Lol some of this rhetoric is so nuts. Squatters in the parks? Crime rate that’s gonna soar? Really. I don’t doubt some of these states that have already legalized pot have seen this but they are currently one of the few so they are drawing some of the dregs of society. I can’t argue that fact. But........If it’s legal coast to coast you don’t get any “migration” of stoners cause they can get high where ever they are. This wouldn’t be Marijuana Armageddon.

I too have always believed and Co turns to believe what you do in your own privacy is your own business. Don’t drive impaired & don’t infringe on others. Despite what the general idea is of pot smokers not all of them are lazy, jobless, welfare leaches on society. I know plenty of folks that fit this description and don’t smoke any pot. They’re just lazy ass leaches.

toddnjoyce · Jun 17, 2018

sidebite252 said:
....If it’s legal coast to coast you don’t get any “migration”

That’s your opinion and it’s fine to have.

It’s also remarkably shallow. Until this issue is dealt with at the federal level, state efforts will result in migration.

Here’s a real resource problem for you: until the feds allow interstate commerce in marijuana, the product comes from within state borders.

It takes a shit-ton of water to grow marijuana commercially. That’s the same water you use to drink, use to bathe, use to water your lawn with.

Ready to be in stage IV water restrictions 24/7/365? That’s what you’re in for. Then, let’s talk about moving the money. It’s an all cash business. Banks can’t be involved, credit cards either; just buying whatever it takes to smoke one is federal money laundering charges.

Oh yeah, that whole patriot act thing? Guess what; you’ve just waived any and all rights you’ve got by violating federal laws. The only reason this hasn’t come to a Supreme Court decision is because federal LE has been hands off.

Lunyfringe · Jun 17, 2018

sidebite252 said:
Lol some of this rhetoric is so nuts. Squatters in the parks? Crime rate that’s gonna soar? Really. I don’t doubt some of these states that have already legalized pot have seen this but they are currently one of the few so they are drawing some of the dregs of society. I can’t argue that fact. But........If it’s legal coast to coast you don’t get any “migration” of stoners cause they can get high where ever they are. This wouldn’t be Marijuana Armageddon.

I too have always believed and Co turns to believe what you do in your own privacy is your own business. Don’t drive impaired & don’t infringe on others. Despite what the general idea is of pot smokers not all of them are lazy, jobless, welfare leaches on society. I know plenty of folks that fit this description and don’t smoke any pot. They’re just lazy ass leaches.

And what state did you leave, partially because you witnessed those very things happening? (To a much greater degree, I lived in Colorado for 20 years and watched it transform) If you don't think it's happening there, you're not paying attention. I've seen people that were useful members of society literally stop giving a shit... and you can think "that's their problem, not mine" all you want, but when it happens to enough people everything "goes to pot" (I really get that saying now)

Just remember you heard it here first... y'all can't say people didn't warn you.

sidebite252 · Jun 18, 2018

I don’t understand the shallow comment? I also think it needs to be decriminalize by the feds as well. Sorry if I didn’t make that clear in my Comments. I still think most of the other observations on what you witnessed would possibly be a mute point if it was decriminalized at the federal level. Sure I could be wrong. I didn’t move here from another state. Born & raised. I Not a liberal. Don’t be so mean. It’s just my opinion. We should be able to have these conversations shouldn’t we?

Lunyfringe · Jun 18, 2018

sidebite252 said:
I don’t understand the shallow comment? I also think it needs to be decriminalize by the feds as well. Sorry if I didn’t make that clear in my Comments. I still think most of the other observations on what you witnessed would possibly be a mute point if it was decriminalized at the federal level. Sure I could be wrong. I didn’t move here from another state. Born & raised. I Not a liberal. Don’t be so mean. It’s just my opinion. We should be able to have these conversations shouldn’t we?

This is a conversation, I just don't know how to convey just how stupid legalizing recreational MJ would be without "being mean"... You just can't do it, it's not taken seriously. If I have to be the designated asshole, I'm fine with that.

sidebite252 · Jun 18, 2018

Gotcha. Your point has been made.

Lunyfringe · Jun 18, 2018

sidebite252 said:
Gotcha. Your point has been made.

Thank you for at least hearing me out... in the end, it will be up to the masses.

Ole Cowboy · Jun 18, 2018

sidebite252 said:
Yes I say totally legalize it, regulate, tax, & decriminalize it. Stoners are typically less dangerous than drunks in a few ways (except to a tube of Pringles & a Dr Pepper) they will tear that shit up!

It’s time to decriminalize marijuana.

That is always the start, so lets make all drug use recreational which is what it is. I've had many friends that are weekend drug users. Several of them we well paid senior executives in large corps, but between Fri and Sunday ole Bob and his wife Cam could snort a LOT of cocaine or Larry who enjoyed a nice hit of sugar cube (LSD) after he came home after work.

2016 over 42,000 folks died of overdose, less people die from gun violence. Yet the Left would ban all guns today if they could.

As the liberal machine grows and gets stronger drug use rises, one thing the extreme far left likes is a stoned out populace, its was common in Germany under Hitler in fact it was standard issue to German soldiers, China was nothing but Opium dens before capitalism got hold of them. The operating Govt of Mexico is the drug cartel's and those cartel's are alive and well in every single major city in the US today.

sharkey · Jun 18, 2018

Lunyfringe said:
Thank you for at least hearing me out... in the end, it will be up to the masses.

The masses rarely make the right choice. Alcohol is legal and look how many issues there are with that. DV, drunk driving, health effects of alcoholism, broken families.

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Lunyfringe · Jun 18, 2018

sharkey said:
The masses rarely make the right choice. Alcohol is legal and look how many issues there are with that. DV, drunk driving, health effects of alcoholism, broken families.

I never said they'd get it right... just that I'm under no illusion that I have any actual control.

toddnjoyce · Jun 18, 2018

sidebite252 said:
I don’t understand the shallow comment?

I’m not trying to put you down, sorry about that. We can have a civil conversation.

I meant shallow in terms of a surface level observation. Words like decriminalize mean things, and in the context of marijuana, only address a very narrow portion of the subject.

For the Texas GOP platform, decriminalize means to change the classification of the charge from being a criminal charge to being a civil charge (for possession of less than 1g). It’s still not legal, though so ‘decriminalize’ does not allow what is currently illegal to be legal.

Like you, I was born and raised in Texas. My military career took me around the US and around the world; those experiences shaped my views. I’m pretty libertarian, but realize that until wholesale marijuana policy changes at the federal level, state efforts do more harm than good.

It’s the little things that cause the biggest problems. For instance, DOT and FAA policy is driven by the Code of Federal Regulation.

The CFR prohibits CDL holders and FAA certificate holders from using any schedule 1 drug.

Lots of outfits in Colorado can’t find enough CDL holders who can pass the drug test. One of the impacts is that it low labor supply and high demand results in increased cost for shipping. That cost is passed on to the final customer, who’s now an out of work CDL holder receiving an unemployment check who’s smoking pot to relieve the stress of being unemployed.

That guy can’t get a well-paying job anywhere, because almost every employer with well paying jobs screens for marijuana because their insurance company requires it or because federal contracts require it.

It’s a downward spiral, and just one more example of why the effort has to be led at the federal level to have any real chance of significant changes.

sidebite252 · Jun 18, 2018

Absolutely everyone should be heard. But as always seems to happen with this particular conversation it becomes the “legalize all drugs” conversation as well as other directions that to me are sometimes based on fear more than fact. I could counter many of these comments but I don’t think it will change anyone’s mind in this thread. I’m gonna go check out the funny pics thread and have a laugh or two and get my day started with some humor. Bottom line for me it won’t make a hill of beans to me if it ever gets legalized or not but it’s my opinion their are a lot of false narratives in regard to pot and I also think some day, just like alcohol, it will be legal in the same way. Y’all have a good day.

Mac7 · Jun 18, 2018

busykngt said:
As Moonpie said,

Toker tax, just like the tobacco tax. (Maybe that would help keep property taxes more affordable).

Lord I hope so.

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rman · Jun 18, 2018

are we still talking about marijuana? some of this sounds like crack and heroin.

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Lunyfringe · Jun 18, 2018

rman said:
are we still talking about marijuana? some of this sounds like crack and heroin.

Sent from my SIG Sauer

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/ne...ted-deaths-increasing-at-epidemic-proportions

https://www.coloradoan.com/story/ne...o-heroin-deaths-doubled-five-years/100074500/

certainly makes a case for "gateway drug"... I know correlation /= causation, but I watched it really go downhill before I bailed.

Lunyfringe · Jun 18, 2018

Mac7 said:
Lord I hope so.

Is the Texas legislature much more disciplined on spending? because Colorado said it was going to be used to fund schools, and would not go to the general fund or special interest projects..

Instead, the amount it contributed to "Schools" was remarkably similar to the amount of funding that used to come from the general fund to schools, but was dropped. It was creative accounting and lies.

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