Canik TP9SA 9MM

Ozzman · Jun 19, 2018

I own a Walther P99... The Canik trigger(S) are lighter and more crisp IMO.

There are many features that were borrowed from the P99 but I think Canik refined the operation, made it better, and more affordable. Reliability has been excellent so far, and I like the Warren Sights on the Elite. I have not experienced any failures of any kind. Like many of you I own more than one: TP9SA, TP9SF, and the TP9SF Elite.

Are there better, slicker, fancier, flashier, expensive handguns out there... yes. But at this price point $300+ they are the front runner for best budget pistol on the market IMO.

diesel1959 · Jun 19, 2018

Kar98 said:
Weird. The original that was copied by Canik, i.e. the Walther P99, if you press the decocker, the trigger goes into double action and pulling the slide back about a quarter of an inch, it's back into single action.

If you're hard up for money but still want a high quality handgun of this style, get the Magnum Research, available as MR9/MR40 (I'll give you three guesses what caliber these are in and the first two guesses don't count.), and in 4 and 4.5 inch. Same price point as the Caniks, uses actual Walther made grips/receives and American made slides and barrels.

https://www.hyattgunstore.com/magnum-research-mr9-eagle-stainless-9mm-pistol.html

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https://www.google.com/search?q=canik+problems&

I've NEVER had any malfunctions with any of my three Canik pistols--including my TP9SF Elite. I've seen some of those videos but that's not my experience. :meh: I didn't buy my Caniks because they're inexpensive, nor are they the only pistols I own. I've got at least a dozen HK pistols, a half-dozen Sigs, a half-dozen Glocks, etc. I like a lot of different pistols and the Caniks fill a niche for me. I don't own a single Walther pistol, and as far as I am aware, it was only the very first couple of Canik models that were "copies" of the Walther P99. But even if they are a copy, that doesn't mean the decockers are the same.

diesel1959 · Jun 19, 2018

Kar98 said:
https://www.gunbuyer.com/walther-ppq-m1-9mm-5-barrel-fiber-optic-front-sight-2-mags-2826721.html

I might be a bit stubborn, but you couldn't give me a modern Walther pistol.

EDIT: I thought about it, and I do own a 60's mfg Walther P38.

ZX9RCAM · Jun 19, 2018

diesel1959 said:
I might be a bit stubborn, but you couldn't give me a modern Walther pistol.

EDIT: I thought about it, and I do own a 60's mfg Walther P38.

That's a shame.
I also own many HKs, and many Glocks.
My Walther PPQ M2 Navy is my favorite gun currently.

ETA: I don't think I've ever held a Canik.

Kar98 · Jun 19, 2018

diesel1959 said:
I might be a bit stubborn, but you couldn't give me a modern Walther pistol.

Entirely your loss

TheDan · Jun 19, 2018

Ozzman said:
I own a Walther P99... The Canik trigger(S) are lighter and more crisp IMO.

...but is it as good as a PPQ?
I never thought the P99 trigger was that great. The PPQ is much improved.

extremist · Jun 19, 2018

Make no mistake, Canik's are great. Typical prices on the TP9SA were as low at $299 6-8 months ago but they have crept up since then due to their popularity in my opinion. Now the TP9SAv2 and TP9SF typically sell for $359 and up. The TP9SFX was available for a time for $429, 459 area. Great price.

Typical Walther PPQ 4" prices have been $525-575, PPQ 5" 575-625 and Q5 700+. Now, some PPQ models with the paddle release (which are much less popular than button release), are being moved with great price reductions ($469 to $499). Great pistols, great prices. Would I pay $40-50 more for a Walther? Heck yeah, especially if I wanted a paddle mag release. You won't find the button mag release PPQs that cheap.

The Caniks still have a $50-250 price advantage over the Walther PPQs and are absolutely comparable and in some cases have advantages over the PPQ.

And yes, I own both

ZX9RCAM · Jun 19, 2018

The PPQ paddle release is the M1.
Button release is the M2.

Darkpriest667 · Jun 20, 2018

ZX9RCAM said:
That's a shame.
I also own many HKs, and many Glocks.
My Walther PPQ M2 Navy is my favorite gun currently.

ETA: I don't think I've ever held a Canik.

If you come to the next TGT meet and I'm there I'll let you fire both of mine. Amazing guns.

Kar98 · Jun 20, 2018

extremist said:
Typical Walther PPQ 4" prices have been $525-575, PPQ 5" 575-625 and Q5 700+. Now, some PPQ models with the paddle release (which are much less popular than button release), are being moved with great price reductions ($469 to $499). Great pistols, great prices. Would I pay $40-50 more for a Walther? Heck yeah, especially if I wanted a paddle mag release. You won't find the button mag release PPQs that cheap.

https://www.gunbuyer.com/catalogsea...product_list_order=price&product_list_dir=asc

diesel1959 · Jun 20, 2018

Kar98 said:
Entirely your loss

Not really. I own plenty of Smith & Wesson revolvers but won't own a Colt wheelgun. You could say that's my loss too; however, I'd disagree with that as well.

Choices--we all make them. :cheers:

Kar98 · Jun 20, 2018

Smith & Wesson vs Colt is like Ford vs Chevy. Both are choices on a personal level and you can't really go wrong with either, just a matter of taste. Walther vs Canik is like BMW vs Shuanguan.

Ozzman · Jun 20, 2018

Kar98 said:
Walther vs Canik is like BMW vs Shuanguan.

Lol

extremist · Jun 21, 2018

Kar98 said:
https://www.gunbuyer.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?brand=1369&caliber=44,34,432&cat=3&q=ppq+m2&stock=1&product_list_order=price&product_list_dir=asc

I stand corrected

Those are great prices. Walther must be having problems moving them.

Kar98 · Jun 21, 2018

Dunno, those prices are kinda gunbuyer.com exclusives. There's also a few exclusive models there, like the five inch PPQ M1 that you can't get anywhere else.

diesel1959 · Jun 21, 2018

Kar98 said:
Smith & Wesson vs Colt is like Ford vs Chevy. Both are choices on a personal level and you can't really go wrong with either, just a matter of taste. Walther vs Canik is like BMW vs Shuanguan.

Does Shuanguan serve TurkishDelight? Asking for a friend . . .

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