Large Gun Arrest in California

TheMailMan · Jun 20, 2018

I thought the law in Texas required that firearms be sold instead of destroyed.

majormadmax · Jun 20, 2018

TheMailMan said:
I thought the law in Texas required that firearms be sold instead of destroyed.

For years firearms had to be repurposed for law enforcement use or destroyed, but House Bill 1421--which passed during the 2013 legislative session--formally permitted law enforcement officials to sell found or unclaimed weapons to a licensed firearms dealer.

So it is an option, not a requirement.

When that law was passed, larger Texas cities like San Antonio, Houston and Austin said they would not participate.

Here is the code...

Texas Code of Criminal Procedure - CRIM P Art. 18.19. Disposition of seized weapons

RoadRunner · Jun 20, 2018

majormadmax said:
I actually don't have a problem with that as it is still better than the alternative...

Just FYI, the SAPD has several thousand firearms secured that will eventually be destroyed. I have been offered a tour of the facility in which they are being stored, but declined as I believe it would be very depressing. It pains me to think this is the only destiny of these weapons, and how much is being lost because the city refuses to even consider selling them through a FFL to law-abiding citizens. Makes me sick to my stomach to think about it...

You don't have a problem with a cop that is a thief? In my opinion ANY thief is a POS and especially a cop.

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majormadmax · Jun 21, 2018

roadrunner said:
You don't have a problem with a cop that is a thief? In my opinion ANY thief is a POS and especially a cop.

I consider it a rescue more than a theft.

So you'd rather the weapon be destroyed than someone taking it?

pronstar · Jun 21, 2018

BRD@66 said:
I wonder if a complete AR upper (ie, without a lower) counts as a fire arm in CA. Probably.

If it has a scary muzzle device, you can’t own or be in possession of it.

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Ole Cowboy · Jun 21, 2018

pronstar said:
If it has a scary muzzle device, you can’t own or be in possession of it.

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In Cali bayonet lugs are classified as weapons...

TheMailMan · Jun 21, 2018

majormadmax said:
For years firearms had to be repurposed for law enforcement use or destroyed, but House Bill 1421--which passed during the 2013 legislative session--formally permitted law enforcement officials to sell found or unclaimed weapons to a licensed firearms dealer.

So it is an option, not a requirement.

When that law was passed, larger Texas cities like San Antonio, Houston and Austin said they would not participate.

Here is the code...

Texas Code of Criminal Procedure - CRIM P Art. 18.19. Disposition of seized weapons

I guess it's time to make that mandatory. All those Governments saying they are short of money yet they are literally burning it.

Ole Cowboy · Jun 21, 2018

roadrunner said:
You don't have a problem with a cop that is a thief? In my opinion ANY thief is a POS and especially a cop.

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Having had my brand new, unfired S&W SS .357 stolen by a cop I have a LOT of problems with them. There is a thin line between cops and crooks, a VERY thin line.

easy rider · Jun 21, 2018

Ole Cowboy said:
Having had my brand new, unfired S&W SS .357 stolen by a cop I have a LOT of problems with them. There is a thin line between cops and crooks, a VERY thin line.

I'd be willing to bet that the average of crook cops is near the same as the average of the population in general.

RoadRunner · Jun 21, 2018

majormadmax said:
I consider it a rescue more than a theft.

So you'd rather the weapon be destroyed than someone taking it?

Call it what you want but theft is theft. A thieving cop is a low life POS regardless of what he steals.

AustinN4 · Jun 21, 2018

I have read this whole thread (large gun arrest) and still can't figure out what it did wrong.

majormadmax · Jun 21, 2018

roadrunner said:
Call it what you want but theft is theft. A thieving cop is a low life POS regardless of what he steals.

So we can agree to disagree, I for one would much rather see a historic and/or valuable weapon end up in a cop's hands than destroyed. These agencies/departments/cities have no problems selling off vehicles that were used in the commission of a crime, but are biased against firearms for no reason other than the political leanings; so I have less of an issue if them being "acquired" as such as I do their demise.

But since you paint it all with such a large brush, what are your thoughts on how the US "acquired" a Mi-24 HIND helicopter in Chad back in the 1980s? Was that theft as well, or does the old military adage “gear adrift is a gift” apply?

https://tacairnet.com/2015/05/12/hind-heist/

easy rider · Jun 21, 2018

AustinN4 said:
I have read this whole thread (large gun arrest) and still can't figure out what it did wrong.

He had lots of guns in California, that's what was wrong.

AustinN4 · Jun 21, 2018

easy rider said:
As I said, used to be. Don't be surprised 'assault weapon' definition changes too.

It already has.

easy rider said:
He had lots of guns in California, that's what was wrong.

Yeah, I get that, but the thread title says a large gun was arrested.

easy rider · Jun 21, 2018

AustinN4 said:
It already has.

Yeah, I get that, but the thread title says a large gun was arrested.

You mean Cali needs an excuse to arrest someone on gun charges?

avvidclif · Jun 21, 2018

majormadmax said:
But since you paint it all with such a large brush, what are your thoughts on how the US "acquired" a Mi-24 HIND helicopter in Chad back in the 1980s? Was that theft as well, or does the old military adage “gear adrift is a gift” apply?

https://tacairnet.com/2015/05/12/hind-heist/

A good supply sergeant is worth his weight in gold!!!!

AustinN4 · Jun 21, 2018

easy rider said:
You mean Cali needs an excuse to arrest someone on gun charges?

If I gotta explain it to ya, oh never mind.
It was a weak joke based on the thread title, which said a large gun was arrested, not a person.

deemus · Jun 21, 2018

easy rider said:
He had lots of guns in California, that's what was wrong.

Plus he was a convicted felon.

easy rider · Jun 21, 2018

I think Austin was playing on words, I was playing back.

RoadRunner · Jun 21, 2018

majormadmax said:
So we can agree to disagree, I for one would much rather see a historic and/or valuable weapon end up in a cop's hands than destroyed. These agencies/departments/cities have no problems selling off vehicles that were used in the commission of a crime, but are biased against firearms for no reason other than the political leanings; so I have less of an issue if them being "acquired" as such as I do their demise.

But since you paint it all with such a large brush, what are your thoughts on how the US "acquired" a Mi-24 HIND helicopter in Chad back in the 1980s? Was that theft as well, or does the old military adage “gear adrift is a gift” apply?

https://tacairnet.com/2015/05/12/hind-heist/

So you think that the military stealing a soviet helicopter to study it's design is the same as a thief that calls himself a cop stealing a gun?

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