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  • craigntx

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    Several of the news reports I’ve seen, said a lot of states are trying to get it implemented before THIS Christmas. And I think many, if not, most of the major players (Amazon, Overstock, Wayfair, etc.) have anticipated this was coming so they’ve pretty much got their software infrastructure in place now - just a question of flipping the switch for many of them.

    Secondhand buying (from individuals) will likely become even more risky than it already is. No refunds, no way of handling complaints, dealing with individuals who aren’t charging sales tax and don’t offer warranties or “satisfaction guaranteed”. It’ll definitely be a “buyer beware” situation.
    sites with trader ratings like arfcom and ak files is where I do most of my
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    Renegade

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    Doesn't Article 1, Section 8 specifically enumerate the powers of Congress? Congress has apparently chosen not to regulate this, so take it up with them if something needs to be addressed. I don't see how SCOTUS has a say here.

    SCOTUS has a say when someone files a lawsuit in Federal Court, and the decision is appealed to SCOTUS.

    What is unusual, is SCOTUS overturned their own 1992 ruling, saying sales need not be collected.
     

    Lunyfringe

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    What I really don't like is the scope creep based on technology.

    This is a slippery slope with regards to the left's argument that the 2nd amendment was written to appky to muskets.

    Then what's next, that free speech was only intended for pen and paper, so does not apply to the internet?
     

    busykngt

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    What is unusual, is SCOTUS overturned their own 1992 ruling, saying sales need not be collected.

    That’s the main thing I’m finding very peculiar with this decision. As several news articles have pointed out, the current SCOTUS decision reverses fifty years worth of legal precedents concerning mail order-type businesses. While not completely unheard of, typically that length of legal precedent goes a long way (pardon the pun) of establishing pretty firm case law.

    Longer term, it will be interesting to see how many states go after (legally speaking) internet retailers and down to what monetary level, in order to recoup sales taxes. Maybe ALL the retailers will comply and it won’t be an issue.
     
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    benenglish

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    Maybe ALL the retailers will comply and it won’t be an issue.
    That's impossible. There are lots of small businesses where dad makes something in the garage, daughter runs the web site from the kitchen table, and mom does the packing and drops off sales at the UPS storefront once or twice a week.

    The overhead burden on compliance in so many jurisdictions will put all those little guys out of business unless they're willing to throw away their business model and just become a storefront on some aggregators web site.

    I'm looking forward to a mainstreamed version of Silk Road. It's going to pop up somewhere but I have no idea where.

    There is definitely a business opportunity there...
     

    Southpaw

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    Sorry, didn't notice another page until after I posted. Wasn't trying to usurp your post.

    easy rider's new avatar:
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    diesel1959

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    I buy a lot of stuff on Amazon and haven't worried a bit about the tax thing. However, I buy 99% of my firearms via the internet--either directly to a business seller or via a gunbroker auction, and as often as possible, out of state. By doing so, I have the advantage of taking my purchases directly to where the stock I want at the price I want it is located. I hate having to walk into a LGS and deal with the hassle and inflated prices. And then the kick in the pills for local sales was the sales tax on top. So it's been interstate, internet firearms shopping all the way. Shipping is almost always cheaper than paying the sales tax.

    I gotta say that paying the sales tax on internet firearms purchases is going to just plain piss me off.
     

    45tex

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    What I really don't like is the scope creep based on technology.

    This is a slippery slope with regards to the left's argument that the 2nd amendment was written to appky to muskets.

    Then what's next, that free speech was only intended for pen and paper, so does not apply to the internet?
    The 1st Amendment never applied to most sites on the internet anyway. Most are owned by somebody and they can censor anything. It's like the NFL players claiming 1st Amendment for actions while at work. It don't apply to companies. They can censor employees. Only the government is supposed to abide by that. That's why people protest in the streets, it's protected.
     

    Lunyfringe

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    The 1st Amendment never applied to most sites on the internet anyway. Most are owned by somebody and they can censor anything. It's like the NFL players claiming 1st Amendment for actions while at work. It don't apply to companies. They can censor employees. Only the government is supposed to abide by that. That's why people protest in the streets, it's protected.
    The bill of rights is a list of restrictions on government. It means freedom from prosecution, not freedom from consequences... if you call you boss an asshole, you're likely going to get fired... but not arrested.
     

    Low_Speed

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    Another was for states to get into our wallets. I don’t like it. They tax us enough. I’d only be for it if they got rid of property tax.


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    Low_Speed

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    Could be much worse... many states have income tax, too.

    Doesn't mean I like it, but my taxes went down when I moved here.

    I get it. I’m from Indiana that has both. Still don’t like it. Middle class is going the way of the Dodo and they want to add another tax onto them.


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