Wlather PPQ 22 vs Ruger MK IV vs

mwrookie · Jul 14, 2018

I have heard the 22 pistols can be picky. Does anyone have experience with the Walther PPQ 22 in 4" or 5" as well as the Ruger MK IV? Pros / Cons

pronstar · Jul 15, 2018

The Walther is made by Umarex, so getting it to cycle can be a crapshoot...

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TheMailMan · Jul 15, 2018

I'd go Ruger, of course I'd look for a used Mk II.

Kar98 · Jul 15, 2018

The Walther is more reliable but a little bit less accurate. The Ruger is a prissy little bitch that needs constant attention, but group sizes are substantially smaller.

BigBoss0311 · Jul 15, 2018

Umarex is Walther. They own them. Just made in different plants. Get the Walther.

topduarte · Jul 15, 2018

Go with the Ruger

RoadRunner · Jul 15, 2018

I have never fired a Walther PPQ or a Ruger Mark IV. From the experiences I have had with 4 different Walther P22s and several Ruger Marks I would say go with the Ruger.

ZX9RCAM · Jul 15, 2018

S&W Victory?

Kar98 · Jul 15, 2018

Beretta Neos?

Dawico · Jul 15, 2018

Ruger gets my vote too.

I have a few MK IIIs that feed and shoot everything. Sometimes the first round out of the mag gave me issues but polishing the feed ramp fixed it.

pronstar · Jul 15, 2018

BigBoss0311 said:
Umarex is Walther. They own them. Just made in different plants. Get the Walther.

Umarex cycling issues are pretty common, for the .22LR pistols they make for a variety of brands.

Would you attribute this to different QC, or...?

They sure don’t run like Walthers do.

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Kar98 · Jul 15, 2018

pronstar said:
Umarex cycling issues are pretty common, for the .22LR pistols they make for a variety of brands.

Would you attribute this to different QC, or...?

Walther pistols are made in a factory for actual guns in Ulm (antler proof mark), and Umarex products in Arnsberg, in a factory for toy guns (three crowns on a shield mark.)

Buy the Ulm ones, stay away from the Arnsberg ones.

ZX9RCAM · Jul 15, 2018

I don't have a PQ22, but I do have a P22, and it's never had any issues, and makes a great host.

mwrookie · Jul 15, 2018

Kar98 said:
Beretta Neos?

I have a Neos...Not bad but I feel like an extra in Star Wars when shooting it

RoadRunner · Jul 15, 2018

ZX9RCAM said:
I don't have a PQ22, but I do have a P22, and it's never had any issues, and makes a great host.

Is your P22 finicky about ammo? Every one that I have fired would not reliably feed anything other than CCI.

innominate · Jul 15, 2018

Glad this topic came up. Im looking for a host and like the classic look of the mk but don't know anything about the reliability.

ZX9RCAM · Jul 15, 2018

roadrunner said:
Is your P22 finicky about ammo? Every one that I have fired would not reliably feed anything other than CCI.

Nope.
Even with my sparrow on it, never had an issue.

AustinN4 · Jul 15, 2018

Browning Buckmark!

Kar98 · Jul 15, 2018

People are having VERY mixed results with the P22 and there were numerous revisions to make it more reliable. I feel I would want to stay away from them.
PPQ 22 seems fine, except for the atrocious sights. Be aware that the PPQ 22 only resembles the real PPQ M2 on the outside. Inside it's a straight blowback hammer fired pistol like a PPK or Makarov.

ZX9RCAM · Jul 15, 2018

I've had my P22 for at least 6 years.
Bought it new.
Fired it alot (relative) at first, then replaced it with a Victory as the host for my sparrow.
I also have a Ruger, no issues with it either, and have never cleaned it.

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