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  • Wildcat Diva

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    I’m so glad to see tons of LEOs training every time I shoot a defensive pistol match or steel challenge match. Most of them I see (groups of them) are very good, too.
     
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    I’m so glad to see tons of LEOs training every time I shoot a defensive pistol match or steel challenge match. Most of them I see (groups of them) are very good, too.

    See if you can accompany any Military Police to the range. Some qualify on a private range because the range on base is taken. Then report back on the accuracy...lol
     

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    See if you can accompany any Military Police to the range. Some qualify on a private range because the range on base is taken. Then report back on the accuracy...lol
    All the ones I see shoot better than me (so that’s not saying much) in a USPSA style or defense pistol club scenario. And these guys must go often because every time I go they are there.

    I’m glad to see it.
     
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    All the ones I see shoot better than me (so that’s not saying much) in a USPSA style or defense pistol club scenario. And these guys must go often because every time I go they are there.

    I’m glad to see it.

    Out of a company. There was three soldiers who couldn't qualify. One was a small frame female who could barely reach the trigger on the M9 Beretta. Her target got punch after three tries to quantify. Made you wonder how she got corporal strips while everybody else got a Specialist shield. Then again it's the Army.
     

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    Ever had somebody point a gun at you? Ever have the image of the round end of a shotgun muzzle stuck in your head? Ever had tunnel vision? Not garden variety stress, real life tunnel vision?

    Yep. The range isn't the same. At all. Neither was the hole in the floor of the patrol room where an officer shot the floor while playing with his sidearm.

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    1. Check the requirement for hiring an officer in the metroplex. There is a bit more than having a HS education.
    2. I hear how cops are terrible shooters compared to civilians........from civilians. Do you have some study to show that because I sure as hell do not know of one.
    Are some cops bad shooters? Sure. Seeing that I have actually instructed both, I can say that the deciding factor is the amount of training a cop or civilian does. I have seen pilots unable to put on the holster given to them for the FFDO program but you don't see me saying all pilots are idiots and should not carrying a gun in the cockpit.

    Fault the Metro guy all you want, that seems to be the popular thing to do but it still doesn't make it right.

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    Yes I have.
    1. Check the requirement for hiring an officer in the metroplex. There is a bit more than having a HS education.
    2. I hear how cops are terrible shooters compared to civilians........from civilians. Do you have some study to show that because I sure as hell do not know of one.
    Are some cops bad shooters? Sure. Seeing that I have actually instructed both, I can say that the deciding factor is the amount of training a cop or civilian does. I have seen pilots unable to put on the holster given to them for the FFDO program but you don't see me saying all pilots are idiots and should not carrying a gun in the cockpit.

    Fault the Metro guy all you want, that seems to be the popular thing to do but it still doesn't make it right.

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    I never said cops are bad shooters. However it's incorrect to think they're tactically superior to good civilian shooters. Wearing the badge. Also know as a bean can lid doesn't automatically make you a professional in firearm use.

    That one cop is a state champion. He trained for it. However, sitting in a car driving around for 8 hours eating free Whataburger doesn't make you a better shot.
     
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    Yep. Some cops can't shoot for $hit. Worst I've EVER seen. I've never seen a civilian shoot the floor board of a patrol car. I've never seen civilians Jack a round into the weeds we had to spend 4 hours looking for. Never seen a civilian shoot a concrete floor out of being dumb.

    Seen a bunch of cops do it. Bunches.
     

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    ...Never seen a civilian shoot a concrete floor out of being dumb.

    Saw it happen recently and wrote about it on here. Short version:

    Indoor range with two ROs watching 3-4 shooters. Dude is behind the firing line kneeling on one knee. Goes to holster pistol while behind the firing line. NDs a hollow point in the concrete floor, fragments and shards go everywhere.
     

    V-Tach

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    Work a range long enough you'll see civies shooting everything imaginable......

    That said, it does amaze me of all the cops I know..... very, very few actually train or shoot on a regular basis....just because they are cops doesn't make them gun experts or good shooters....
     

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    Saw it happen recently and wrote about it on here. Short version:

    Indoor range with two ROs watching 3-4 shooters. Dude is behind the firing line kneeling on one knee. Goes to holster pistol while behind the firing line. NDs a hollow point in the concrete floor, fragments and shards go everywhere.

    RO's should be watching everyone...in front and behind the line....scary!
     
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    Saw it happen recently and wrote about it on here. Short version:

    Indoor range with two ROs watching 3-4 shooters. Dude is behind the firing line kneeling on one knee. Goes to holster pistol while behind the firing line. NDs a hollow point in the concrete floor, fragments and shards go everywhere.

    I was 20yo. Went to an indoor range in Temple. The onwer was a Temple police officer. He rented me a 41mag S&W revolver in stainless. Told me the trigger was polished. I cock the hammer and ~touch~ the trigger. Bang. It was well polished.

    I shot the roof. Does that count?
     

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    Don't know what he was shooting but that guy can put lead down range fast with good recovery. And steering with the knees & talking on the radio. Peeking to shoot through the windshield hole. Yes, mag change was clumsy. 4 hash stripes. He didn't get hung up in traffic like the others either.
     
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    I was 20yo. Went to an indoor range in Temple. The onwer was a Temple police officer. He rented me a 41mag S&W revolver in stainless. Told me the trigger was polished. I cock the hammer and ~touch~ the trigger. Bang. It was well polished.

    I shot the roof. Does that count?

    Guess that was a pretty good taxidermist bill.
     

    sharkey

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    Work a range long enough you'll see civies shooting everything imaginable......

    That said, it does amaze me of all the cops I know..... very, very few actually train or shoot on a regular basis....just because they are cops doesn't make them gun experts or good shooters....
    Maybe it is just the guys you know? Not every coop is a shooter. We can all agree on that BUT the funny thing is folks are saying this stuff in a thread about a metro guy that DID drop a murderer. That is what is strange. They then want to come up with hypotheticals that did not happen or they question the policy violation as if they were driving the car chasing murderers and exchanging gun fire. I guess it is kinda comical and it makes my down time go quicker.

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