Totally agree.
Why Does S&W stay in Mass???
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Totally agree.
From what I have read, the CEO has stated that they have started
diversifying where the profit comes from and has stated that a ¼ of profit of American Outdoor Brands now comes from non firearm products.
Moonpie, Ronnie Barrett did exactly that with California. They banned his .50 cal rifles, so he informed their police agencies that he would no longer sell to THEM if ordinary citizens couldn't buy his product! I would like to see EVERY gun maker follow his lead, and not sell to states that restrict their own citizens gun rights.
Colt's management has always been weird.
Their actions seem, to an outsider, goofy.
They will sell every last SAA they can make. What do they do? Not make any.
They were somewhat ahead of the CCW era with the little .380 1911 clone in the 80's. The gun failed because it had problems so they ceased production.
Nationally CCW took off in the late 1990's. Where was Colt? Not making anything to fit this new market.
They finally brought it back a few years ago.
They royally wrecked the 9mm 2000 gun. What the hell were they thinking?
The snake guns will probably never be made again.
Too expensive to produce with too few sales.
Low sales is the reason why production ceased.
They did license re-introduction of the 1903 Pocket. Its a solid gun but very expensive for what it is.
They should have updated it a bit and marketed it as a carry gun. They carry amazingly well.
Come on Colt. You can do it.
Their actions seem, to an outsider, goofy.
They will sell every last SAA they can make. What do they do? Not make any.
They were somewhat ahead of the CCW era with the little .380 1911 clone in the 80's. The gun failed because it had problems so they ceased production.
Nationally CCW took off in the late 1990's. Where was Colt? Not making anything to fit this new market.
They finally brought it back a few years ago.
They royally wrecked the 9mm 2000 gun. What the hell were they thinking?
The snake guns will probably never be made again.
Too expensive to produce with too few sales.
Low sales is the reason why production ceased.
They did license re-introduction of the 1903 Pocket. Its a solid gun but very expensive for what it is.
They should have updated it a bit and marketed it as a carry gun. They carry amazingly well.
Come on Colt. You can do it.
Sounds good, but there is just too much money involved for the big guys to do this, IMO. For example, Barrett might sell 1 or 2 .50s to an agency where smith, or sig, or glock, or whoever, might have a massive sale.
But if everybody banded together and did it laws would change.
If every manufacturer refused to sell mags with full capacity to LEOs the LEOs would push back against the lawmakers.
Would any manufacturer go out of business because of a few lost sales to one or two states? No way.
They would gain sales in the long run.
Colt isn't competitive in any market. Everything they make is being made better and cheaper by somebody else.
Their sales are derived only because of the fanbois and the fancy horse stamped on their products.
They compete well in certain markets and could do much better in others with better management.
Talk shit all you want about fanbois but they are the paying customer. Colt sells every last 1911 and SAA they make.
Glock doesn't have silly ass fanbois? Sheeesh. Glock hasn't come out with a new design in what? 35years?
People have lost their minds over the 19X. Please.
Colt IS stupid in some ways.
.22 semi-auto pistol market? Where the hell are they?
Small concealable 9mm market? Where the hell are they?
Which markets do they compete well in that isn't based strictly on their name?
Every manufacturer has fanbois, that's just the nature of the market and it works out well for manufacturers. I believe it is the only thing keeping Colt's doors open.
Colt is smart for staying out of some markets. They just can't be competitive in them.
Glock is now what Colt was 100 years ago.
I think Colt has done themselves a disservice... Sure they are a "premium" brand, but I don't think I've ever honestly met someone outside of this group that owned one. Is Colt a public company? I can't seem to find their quarterly reports.
Lunyfringe
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2 words describe in a nutshell why I'll never understand Colt fanbois: Large pin
I don't worship brand names.
I don't worship brand names.
I'm a fan of craftsmanship, although I'm not going to spend thousands of dollars just to pay higher prices for words like "billet". I have heard people put down guns because they use some MIM parts, guess what, those billet parts don't cost any where near what you pay for them and are no more guaranteed last longer.
They sure sell a lot of Glocks for them to not be quality.
You wouldn't want to be pistol whipped with the butt of one.
S&W is not owned or even a big part of its ownership. Recent years have shown S&W to be quite stodgy and unwilling to change. They will pay a price over time for being blind to the world today.
And I have until recently been a life long fan of S^&W
And I have until recently been a life long fan of S^&W
