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  • Frank59

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    I've never in my life time (59) seen such a pathetic display of political deception. The womens right movement has been set back decades by butt hurt dems stooping to all time lows to discredit a decent man in Judge Kavanaugh.
     

    Wildcat Diva

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    Oh she replied and wants to choose when they’ll see her. It’s very much an air of you’ll do things my way or it’s not fair! It’s making me sick, this whole focus on what she feels and thinks and wants.

    Like she can boss our whole government/ system around?! We need to put our foot down.
     

    busykngt

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    I’m taking Grassley at face value. He has drawn “a line in the sand” before and changed it once. If he doesn’t make good on the 10 am EDT deadline tomorrow - I’m giving up on him. If Grassley doesn’t hold the vote early next week (Mon/Tue), he has allowed the process to completely get out of control. It will be Grassley who’s let “the inmates take over the prison”!

    Grassley’s sole objective should be to get the nomination out of committee and onto to Senate floor. I’ve got an idea, McConnell won’t put up with this kind of Mickey Mouse game playing!

    Judge Kavanaugh may well have been screwed by Grassley’s inability do manage this process and do his job!
     
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    I’m taking Grassley at face value. He has drawn “a line in the sand” before and changed it once. If he doesn’t make good on the 10 am EDT deadline tomorrow - I’m giving up on him.

    Grassley is not calling the shots. Flake and Collins are.

    Grassley’s sole objective should be to get the nomination out of committee and onto to Senate floor.

    Exactly, so if Collins says she is voting no if Grassly does not giver Ford 2 more days, Grassly will give Ford 2 more days.
     

    busykngt

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    Grassley is not calling the shots. Flake and Collins are.
    Collins is not on the Senate Judiciary Committee - she doesn’t get a say. Grassley does control the situation in getting the nomination out of the subcommittee’s hands. As I mentioned earlier Flake can vote to abstain ; it would be a tie at that point until VP Pence votes to forward the nomination to the full Senate. (Pence can cast a deciding vote in the case of a subcommittee tie according to the rules of the subcommittee). Flake can vote against him and that would kill his nomination - I think that’s the chance Grassley should take. Flake is either going to support Trump’s nomination or he’s not - further delay isn’t going to change that situation.

    So, yes it is Grassley calling the shots (IF he has enough backbone to do so).

    ETA: Corrected my comment above due to an interruption during composition.
     
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    Renegade

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    Collins is not on the Senate Judiciary Committee - she doesn’t get a say. Grassley does control the situation in getting the nomination out of the subcommittee’s hands. As I mentioned earlier Flake can vote against him; it would be a tie at that point until VP Pence votes to forward the nomination to the full Senate. (Pence can cast a deciding vote in the case of a subcommittee tie according to the rules of the subcommittee).

    So, yes it is Grassley calling the shots (IF he has enough backbone to do so).

    Does not matter what Committee she is on or not. She is a voting Senator. Everything is being done right now to preserve 51 votes. So if Flake, Corker, Murkowski and Collins say delay vote to hear Ford, Grassley postpones the vote:

    Sens. Jeff Flake and Bob Corker both say the Senate Judiciary Committee should not vote on Kavanaugh's nomination until they talk to his accuser, and Sen. Lisa Murkowski said the committee might have to consider delaying the vote, according to reporting by CNN and other news organizations.

    And Collins Twitter:

    Professor Ford and Judge Kavanaugh should both testify under oath before the Judiciary Committee.

    If Collins continues to insist Ford testify, Grassley will "call the shot" and postpone the deadline again. So sure, Grassley is calling the shots, and those Senators are pulling his strings.

    Grassley is not doing anything without their permission.
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    busykngt

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    Once the subcommittee votes, the die is cast. The nomination either leaves the subcommittee or it doesn’t. The only senator who has shown any indication of being a “swing vote” is Flake. And I’m saying Grassley should call him on it.

    Again, Grassley has the power to end this circus. He should do so. The political fall out and repercussions are much harder to bare in the full senate. Let them decide - by most accounts, Kavanaugh has enough votes to win in the full senate.
     

    Renegade

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    The committee doesn't really kill a nomination, they can only make a recommendation to the full senate. It's just that the senate rarely goes against a committee's recommendation.

    Because they make sure they have the votes. That is what the whip does.

    If Grassley gets this voted out before getting the RINOs on board, BK is going down in flames.
     

    Renegade

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    Once the subcommittee votes, the die is cast. The nomination either leaves the subcommittee or it doesn’t. The only senator who has shown any indication of being a “swing vote” is Flake. And I’m saying Grassley should call him on it.

    Again, Grassley has the power to end this circus. He should do so. The political fall out and repercussions are much harder to bare in the full senate. Let them decide - by most accounts, Kavanaugh has enough votes to win in the full senate.

    Well we will find out at 10edt tomorrow.
     

    busykngt

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    Doubt if BK is going down in flames.

    The subcommittee can always send the nomination to the full senate with an adverse report like they did in the case of Bork or even with a tie (neutral) vote like they did in the case of Thomas.

    Unless Kavanaugh is reported favorably out of the subcommittee, I doubt McConnell would be inclined to put a confirmation vote on the senate calendar. (Unless he could somehow convince himself of assured passage for Kavanaugh and that degree of assurance isn’t there).
     

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    Most all full senate vote assessments I’ve seen, don’t show *ALL* senate RINOs have to be “onboard”.

    In fact, a few of the Dems - those up for re-election in strong Trump states - are even anticipated to cross over and vote for Kavanaugh. These may only be two or three; there’s more up for re-election than that but they aren’t expected to cross over. Those running close mid-terms election campaigns don’t want a negative Kavanaugh vote to cost them their re-election (it’s a ‘self-preservation’ thang!).
     
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    SloppyShooter

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    I got a phone call today from a political survey deal. They gave me the results of a Cruz poll. 46% favorable , 26% not, somethin somethin whatever.

    Then the question: About Trump's involvement in Benidick Arnolds accusations of voter tampering.

    The premise was, assuming you are a congressman, how would you vote?

    REALLY? We can only hope this chit by numbers can persuade those that actually CAN make a diff.
     

    Frank59

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    I think Trump is right on Target with his demand that Pathetic Ford turn over a police report of the alleged incident and I can hardly wait to see what that idiot has to say about why she didn't file one.
     

    Renegade

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    Deadline has passed

    Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley had called on Ford to respond by 10 a.m. Friday. With the deadline passed, Fox News has learned Grassley is speaking with committee members and key other players about what they’re willing to do.
     

    Brains

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    Lets hope the potential wrong voters see this shit show for what it is and get back on target. Lets get this done, already.
     
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