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  • Jon Payne

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    In the Texas LTC Class there are four subjects that are MANDATORY. The class has to be a minimum of four hours long or a maximum of 6 hours in length. Classroom breaks, test taking time, and range time aren't included in class room hours.

    The four subjects that must be covered are also called "the four food groups".

    1. Laws that relate to Weapons and Deadly Force

    2. Handgun Use and Safety, including the use of restraint holsters and methods to ensure the secure carrying of openly carried handguns

    3. Non‐Violent Dispute Resolution

    4. Proper Storage Practices for Handguns with an Emphasis on Storage Practices That Eliminate the Possibility of Accidental Injury to a Child

    I teach the material in this exact order. If your class was entertaining and you had a good time, but this material wasn't' covered; you did not attend a "good class". When I hear of folks who have recently taken the Texas LTC class, but have questions on the most basic of information that should've been thoroughly covered in class, it leads to me wonder about the quality of the instructor and or the maturity of the student.

    Call me an ass, but if you're not responsible enough to pay attention during a four hour class how can you be responsible enough to carry a handgun in public? I'm not asking you to take a LTC class from me. Hell, I'm done with scheduled LTC classes until January. What I am asking you to do is take a LTC class from an instructor who covers the required material. Do your homework. No one but you is responsible for you.
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    Frank59

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    if you're not responsible enough to pay attention during a four hour class how can you be responsible enough to carry a handgun in public?
    Absolutely agree!! If your confused about something or simply don't understand ask for clarification.
    Don't walk out of there not knowing how and when you can open/conceal carry.
     

    Jon Payne

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    Absolutely agree!! If your confused about something or simply don't understand ask for clarification.
    Don't walk out of there not knowing how and when you can conceal carry.
    Ask questions! You won't be an expert in TPC 46 and Chapter 9 when you pass the class, but you should have a firm understanding and know how and where you can do further research.
     

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    Do your homework.
    Homework, meaning outside or after the classroom when more questions may arise and a forum is a good place to get information.

    I don't think your an ass but since I'm aware of the full context, pompous comes to mind. I believe your credibility would be strengthened if you helped the guy instead of this approach.
     

    Gilbertc13

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    Just tag me in your post next time man

    Oh and if your from PBF off on 90 in Katy, your class schedule wasn’t conducive to my schedule with work.


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    Jon Payne

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    Homework, meaning outside or after the classroom when more questions may arise and a forum is a good place to get information.

    I don't think your an ass but since I'm aware of the full context, pompous comes to mind. I believe your credibility would be strengthened if you helped the guy instead of this approach.
    My credibility isn't in question here. More questions? Really? We're talking BASIC information here. Doesn't matter to me if you like it or not and I was fully expecting responses like yours.
     

    Gilbertc13

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    I agree with you. Instead of being snide with me, just answer my questions the first time and we move on from there. Or just keep it to yourself and don’t reply.

    I thought this was the place where I could ask questions, find information and clarification from people who know a lot more than I do. If I’m in the wrong spot just tell me

    Are you from PBF in Katy?


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    I agree with you. Instead of being snide with me, just answer my questions the first time and we move on from there.

    Are you from PBF in Katy?


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    Carrying a remote switch for life and death is serious business. You think I'm being snide? Go ahead and think that. I thought your questions were so strange I would've lost money betting you were trolling. No, I am not from PBF in Katy.
     

    Renegade

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    Call me an ass, but if you're not responsible enough to pay attention during a four hour class how can you be responsible enough to carry a handgun in public?

    So we can put you down for ANTI-Constitutional Carry? Cause nobody should need to take a class in the first place.
     

    Jon Payne

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    See this thing - "?".

    That means it is a question.
    A question formed as a statement.

    Gee, isn't this the "Texas Concealed Handgun (CHL) subforum? See MINE has a "?" too..... Perhaps you should ask constitutional carry questions in a constitutional carry subforum?
     

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    A question formed as a statement.

    Gee, isn't this the "Texas Concealed Handgun (CHL) subforum? See MINE has a "?" too..... Perhaps you should ask constitutional carry questions in a constitutional carry subforum?

    So two chances to answer the question, two times you avoided.

    I think it is safe we can put you down for ANTI-Constitutional Carry...

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    I agree with you. Instead of being snide with me, just answer my questions the first time and we move on from there. Or just keep it to yourself and don’t reply.

    I thought this was the place where I could ask questions, find information and clarification from people who know a lot more than I do. If I’m in the wrong spot just tell me

    Are you from PBF in Katy?


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    It’s the internet. You will get all kinds of responses and it’s usually up to you to filter out what’s relevant and ignore what isn’t.


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    toddnjoyce

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    Call me an ass, but if you're not responsible enough to pay attention during a four hour class how can you be responsible enough to carry a handgun in public? ...Do your homework. No one but you is responsible for you.


    Ok, you’re an ass and I don’t care how many LTC classes you’ve taught or how full your schedule is.

    Nail salon workers are required to receive more training than LTC holders, have CE requirements, which LTC holders don’t have, yet still **** up pedicures. Think about that for a minute.

    Oh yeah; the four required areas only cover knowledge to be retained to pass the test at the end of the course. The cognitive performance objectives aren’t designed to encourage, much less impart synthesis of the knowledge in a scenario-based environment, which is the bare minimum environment needed to create those connections.
     

    Jon Payne

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    Ok, you’re an ass and I don’t care how many LTC classes you’ve taught or how full your schedule is.

    Nail salon workers are required to receive more training than LTC holders, have CE requirements, which LTC holders don’t have, yet still **** up pedicures. Think about that for a minute.

    Oh yeah; the four required areas only cover knowledge to be retained to pass the test at the end of the course. The cognitive performance objectives aren’t designed to encourage, much less impart synthesis of the knowledge in a scenario-based environment, which is the bare minimum environment needed to create those connections.

    By your criteria it's even more imperative to educate yourself isn't it? I don't think you're giving the program or instructors enough credit. Are you for abolishing the program or do you have a fix for your perceived deficiencies?
     

    Vaquero

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    By your criteria it's even more imperative to educate yourself isn't it? I don't think you're giving the program or instructors enough credit. Are you for abolishing the program or do you have a fix for your perceived deficiencies?
    I'll respond to the last question.

    Yes and yes.
    Constitutional carry.
    Firearms proficiency and safety should be a mandatory requirement in public education facilities.
     
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