What does the red dot look like

lightflyer1 · Nov 21, 2018

Bozz10mm said:
I just tried that and there is a difference. I know I have the astigmatism. I was curious if anyone sees a perfectly shaped round dot in theirs. I've been wearing corrective lenses for many years. I don't think they can correct astigmatism tho.

They should be able to. That was the issue I had. Both glasses and contacts are/were made to fix this. I had Lasik done for mine years ago. They even have a procedure that restores reading vision now along with your normal vision so no glasses are needed for anything.

benenglish · Nov 21, 2018

I am severely near-sighted and have astigmatism. My glasses supposedly correct it all.

I've looked through dozens if not hundreds of red dot sights. I always seen a random clump of little dots that doesn't even approximate a clean, round dot. To use a red dot, I turn the brightness down as far as possible for conditions then just put the clump where I want the shot to go.

Oddly enough, it still bothers me that I see a random clump instead of any cleanly defined geometric shape.

Bozz10mm · Nov 21, 2018

benenglish said:
I am severely near-sighted and have astigmatism. My glasses supposedly correct it all.

I've looked through dozens if not hundreds of red dot sights. I always seen a random clump of little dots that doesn't even approximate a clean, round dot. To use a red dot, I turn the brightness down as far as possible for conditions then just put the clump where I want the shot to go.

Oddly enough, it still bothers me that I see a random clump instead of any cleanly defined geometric shape.

Pick a spot on the clump and use that to sight it in. I use the very top of the slash to sight mine in. Works pretty well, but I am still slightly more accurate with iron sights.

grasshopperglock · Nov 21, 2018

If you use the binoculars. You can see the shot group hit within the red dot.

It's awkward to hold the binoculars and aim but it'll show where it's hitting. Don't let the binos bang against the red dot.

I use binoculars sighting in red dots. Example, Winchester white box 22lr, zeroed at 66 yards. Looking through the dot, you really can't see the area the dot covers. With binoculars you can see where they strike within the dot.

Adjust until the shot group as close to the center of the dot as you can get. I use a fixed power of 8 on the binos.

ZX9RCAM · Nov 21, 2018

grasshopperglock said:
If you use the binoculars. You can see the shot group hit within the red dot.

It's awkward to hold the binoculars and aim but it'll show where it's hitting. Don't let the binos bang against the red dot.

I use binoculars sighting in red dots. Example, Winchester white box 22lr, zeroed at 66 yards. Looking through the dot, you really can't see the area the dot covers. With binoculars you can see where they strike within the dot.

Adjust until the shot group as close to the center of the dot as you can get. I use a fixed power of 8 on the binos.

How about just using a magnifier?
And no, not the handheld variety, but something like a 3x mounted in front.

toddnjoyce · Nov 21, 2018

ZX9RCAM said:
How about just using a magnifier?
And no, not the handheld variety, but something like a 3x mounted in front.

If it has diopter adjustment, it should work fine.

ZX9RCAM · Nov 21, 2018

toddnjoyce said:
If it has diopter adjustment, it should work fine.

I don't think RDS magnifiers have a diopter adjustment.

toddnjoyce · Nov 21, 2018

ZX9RCAM said:
I don't think RDS magnifiers have a diopter adjustment.

I dunno. Never used one.

DD130 · Nov 21, 2018

Bozz10mm said:
It's actually bright red. Camera makes it look pink. It's a 2 MOA dot. Sig Sauer Romeo 5 in the photo. If I use the co-witnessed BUIS, with it, it looks more like this. * (Actual size)

I have several Romeo 5's, it's certainly supposed to be a dot.

Bozz10mm · Nov 21, 2018

DD130 said:
I have several Romeo 5's, it's certainly supposed to be a dot.

That's what I thought. Are yours?

grasshopperglock · Nov 21, 2018

ZX9RCAM said:
How about just using a magnifier?
And no, not the handheld variety, but something like a 3x mounted in front.

The higher the magnification the more the dot washes out. With a 3x you won't notice as much as a 8x. At 8x within 100yards you can see the area a 1 or 2 moa dot covers.

DD130 · Nov 21, 2018

Bozz10mm said:
That's what I thought. Are yours?

I also have astigmatism, so mine look a little more like stars if I open my dominant eye, but they are dots.

Gunny P · Nov 22, 2018

I have always use Trijicon acogs so I never knew I had astigmatism until I decided to buy red dot for galil ace 7.62x 39 pistol. All i saw from the red dot were red star bust image that changes based on target distance. I recently bought the Primary arms 1X accs cyclops. I zeroed it on galil ace 7.62 pistol last week, that was sweet. I was able to touch same hole on 25yards and around 2" grouping at 100 yards with the pistol mounted on Caldwell rest and tula ammo.
The primary arms cyclops was bought for $190 something with 15% off on optics planet.
It has bullet drop compesantion as well. Though not crispy clear under low light like trijicon, it is a steal for the price. and it helps greatly with the astigmatism
*** not affliated with primary arms nor optic planets***

oldag · Nov 23, 2018

Also see the elongated red dot often when using the 3x magnifier. Not so much with just the red dot alone.

gshayd · Nov 26, 2018

Wear your prescription glasses when using a red dot. Also turn down the brightness. You also might try polarized glasses for day shooting. You also might try using a prism sight Burris and the Vortex (Spitfire) make them.

http://www.vortexoptics.com/category/spitfire_prism_scopes

gshayd · Nov 26, 2018

Gunny P said:
I have always use Trijicon acogs so I never knew I had astigmatism until I decided to buy red dot for galil ace 7.62x 39 pistol. All i saw from the red dot were red star bust image that changes based on target distance. I recently bought the Primary arms 1X accs cyclops. I zeroed it on galil ace 7.62 pistol last week, that was sweet. I was able to touch same hole on 25yards and around 2" grouping at 100 yards with the pistol mounted on Caldwell rest and tula ammo.
The primary arms cyclops was bought for $190 something with 15% off on optics planet.
It has bullet drop compesantion as well. Though not crispy clear under low light like trijicon, it is a steal for the price. and it helps greatly with the astigmatism
*** not affliated with primary arms nor optic planets***

I believe the ACOG is a prism scope and it works better with astigmatism. The PA Cyclops is also a prism scope

benenglish · Nov 26, 2018

gshayd said:
...a prism scope ... works better with astigmatism...

I had no idea that was the case. Thanks for the insight.

TheDan · Nov 26, 2018

Before lasik they looked amoebas. Soon after lasik they looked like dots. A few years after lasik they are turning back into amoebas

ekim · Nov 26, 2018

Round in shape and red in color or there about.

Rangerscott · Nov 28, 2018

I see a bit of a star with my eyes.

Like the top right pic.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0...m_diagram_and_examples_large.jpg?v=1528146899

What does the red dot look like

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