OC Gun Snatched by Felon

sharkey · Dec 29, 2018

jrbfishn said:
In Brazil, yes they target security guards. And cops. And soldiers. Usually not a lone attacker though. Usually gangs that are already better armed than their prey and the people there are disarmed so they are no help. To reach that point here they would have to disarm the population.
At this point in America, gangs out number cops. And in many instances are at least as well armed as most cops. One of the things that keeps them in check is an armed society that my well resort to vigilante justice if needed. As long as they pretty much stay where most people don't notice their behavior, most will tend to ignore them. If they tried the same shit here as in Brazil, it would be a different story altogether.
That is one of the reasons THEY want US disarmed? Criminals from the street up can then do as they please.

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Maybe. Policing is not what it use to be. Who would think we would have elected communists and socialists in office.... and here we are. Do I think we will see more of this? I think so but the armed citizen needs to prepare for this is all I am saying. I ,ean it isnt like a CC carrier has never lost a gun to a bad guy either. Sounds like the guy was an asshat anyway. Is he on the forum, do we know?

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Dawico · Dec 30, 2018

A basic truth for me, if you carry a firearm you better plan on using it if the situation arises.

Seems to me the kid should have shot the grabber. Plain and simple.

Sounds like he was in that position more to make a statement and meet girls than to actually use the 2A for its intended purpose. Idiot is lucky to be alive.

oljames3 · Dec 30, 2018

sharkey said:
Brazilians Target security guards for the gun and I would guess that will eventually happen here with OC'ers. Still an infrequent occurrence and if it does happen the OC'er should have a plan to deal with it. It won't change anything for me. We all make choices on how much risk we will manage.

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Good point about risk management, Sharkey. As with most choices in life, how we carry comes down to which risks we are willing to manage and which benefits matter most to us.

avvidclif · Dec 30, 2018

Simple, open carry an unloaded weapon. CC a loaded one.

V-Tach · Dec 30, 2018

Poon= abandoning common sense......

Poon wins every time...........

majormadmax · Dec 30, 2018

Oddly enough, people die all the time in cars with ABS, TCS, wearing seatbelts and with more airbags than at a Scottish piper festival. Shit happens no matter how many actions you take to prevent it.

Plus, stupid hurts; and it's always better to be lucky than good. Melvin F. Bogus is lucky he isn't full of holes.

All that said, it's a good article because it might get some OC'ers to think about the possibilities of how badly things can go...

sharkey · Dec 30, 2018

V-Tach said:
Poon= abandoning common sense......

Poon wins every time...........

"This is my rifle, this is my gun. One is for fighting, one is for fun." Honestly, you don't wanna lose either.

gshayd · Dec 30, 2018

Said the carrier also had a shotgun, two pistols a machete and a large knife? That just screams tacticool Ninja type.

Deltaboy1984 · Jan 2, 2019

I carry a speed safe Kershaw weak side for such attempts!

BillFairbanks · Jan 5, 2019

“Mr. Bogus”?

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sharkey · Jan 5, 2019

Here is a decent blog story on the incident, the suspect's background, and past gun grab from Open Carriers
http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/open-carry-awry/

easy rider · Jan 6, 2019

sharkey said:
Here is a decent blog story on the incident, the suspect's background, and past gun grab from Open Carriers
http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/open-carry-awry/

I don't like that the article assumes that if you open carry you are doing it to make a statement.

majormadmax · Jan 6, 2019

easy rider said:
I don't like that the article assumes that if you open carry you are doing it to make a statement.

I didn't quite get that impression, and appreciated that the article was still pro-OC even after this event and that it continued to support that right...

Wildcat Diva · Jan 6, 2019

I liked the article. I did balk a little at the suggestion that when open carrying and in a group, that not all guns need to be loaded.

First of all, who goes around in a group? And what is the good of having an unloaded gun?

Other than that I thought the article was pretty good.

motorcarman · Jan 6, 2019

Wildcat Diva said:
And what is the good of having an unloaded gun?

I always drain the fuel from my vehicles when I put them in the garage at night!!! It is safer that way and the car won't 'catch-fire' if the battery is disconnected also. (note that the sarcasm switch is ON)

I agree that an unloaded gun is fairly useless.

bob

BRD@66 · Jan 6, 2019

motorcarman said:
I always drain the fuel from my vehicles when I put them in the garage at night!!! It is safer that way and the car won't 'catch-fire' if the battery is disconnected also. (note that the sarcasm switch is ON)

I agree that an unloaded gun is fairly useless.

bob

Some good ideas here. I'm taking notes.

Spcwolf · Jan 21, 2019

I personally prefer to CC. I don’t like the attention that OC brings, I would rather have the element of surprise if I had to use it.

Charlie · Jan 21, 2019

I CC all the time. For a reason. Nobody would ever suspect me as dangerous, old fart loafin' along, etc.. Pull a gun or a knife on me, I'm gonna' kill you. :green:

PRE-K · Jan 21, 2019

LE is taught AD NAUSEAM they are a target. Cops don't appreciate, enjoy, or otherwise want to be a target; its kind of a shi*** feeling, and puts you on edge at times. It changes your perspective of people in general, and affects how you interact with them, sometimes negatively. I'd venture to say its a bit depressing, too, having to always operate like someone wants to kill you.

And then there are those who, apparently solely because they have the right, volunteer to be a target. Never understood that.

easy rider · Jan 21, 2019

Who are these targets you speak of? Some dumbass kid that gets his sidearm taken from him and now we are all targets if we OC? Show me the statistics, not fears.

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