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HB 1078 - Waive LTC Fee if CPR certified - Hearing 3/13/19

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  • dogbone

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    HB 1078, authored by Oliverson, proposes waiving the fees for both driver license and LTC for applicants who hold a certification in cardiopulmonary resuscitation.

    https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=86R&Bill=HB1078

    Hearing is set for Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 8:00 am by the Homeland Security & Public Safety in Room E2.016

    Not a huge step forward in restoring our 2A rights, but as the other side often says, "If it saves one life..."
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    Tex929rr

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    Hmm. I think the fee for LTC was only $20 last time (My wife and I are both veterans). A CPR card from AHA costs the instructor $20, although the BLS card (CPR for medical personnel) is only $7. I teach CPR to our county firefighters, so at least in their case the VFD’s pick up the CPR cost so this is really a good deal for them.
     

    Dash Riprock

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    I don't necessarily object to this but man, what a trivial thing to be spending political capital on.

    We're going to have one of those sessions where at the end, nothing of any substance will get done but the various gun lobby groups will put together a list of these kind of things and pat themselves on the back for how far they advanced the ball.
     

    Kar98

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    Because with operating cars or weapons, there IS a chance of injury :P
    I would. Take it if you want to, but why require it from all? It would be just another money making boondongle to me. I am tired of the powers that be requiring stuff.

    Well, operating motor vehicles and firearms DOES have a risk of injury, even if it's just M1 thumb, and being able to render First Aid and CPR _would_ safe lives (proper Good Samaritan laws provided) and it _would_ be something that could be thrown back in the faces of anti-gun activists. See? We ARE doing something reasonable and useful that actually might save lives, not just when driving and shooting; unlike your consistent trying to chip away at gun rights.
     

    benenglish

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    Someone here will know from personal experience so tell me if I remember right or I'm nuts. I thought in Germany to get a drivers license, you were required to take a first aid course and keep a first aid kit in the car.

    Just a data point, not a goal.
     

    Kar98

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    Someone here will know from personal experience so tell me if I remember right or I'm nuts. I thought in Germany to get a drivers license, you were required to take a first aid course and keep a first aid kit in the car.

    Just a data point, not a goal.

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    Indeed, to be even able to START taking driving classes, you have to have proof of having passed a first aid class. And you are indeed supposed to have a standardized first aid kit, complete with nitrile gloves (the gloves became part of the standardized kit when AIDS became a thing, and people were using "ick, bug infested blood!" as excuse not to render first aid) in your car. And a reflective triangle so you don't get runned over.

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    I don’t have an issue with giving those who are CPR certified a break on the license fees. I do have an issue with making more stuff mandatory before one can exercise a God given Constitutionally guaranteed right. Are we going to mandate that voters write a thousand word essay to prove they clearly understand the issues being voted upon?

    I do agree though, that this is a waste of political capital and time, but then the less those morons get done the less chances they have of screwing stuff up even more.
     

    Younggun

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    Because with operating cars or weapons, there IS a chance of injury :P


    Well, operating motor vehicles and firearms DOES have a risk of injury, even if it's just M1 thumb, and being able to render First Aid and CPR _would_ safe lives (proper Good Samaritan laws provided) and it _would_ be something that could be thrown back in the faces of anti-gun activists. See? We ARE doing something reasonable and useful that actually might save lives, not just when driving and shooting; unlike your consistent trying to chip away at gun rights.

    That makes sense.


    Should also require CPR and first aid certs before owning or operating a chainsaw, visiting the local lake or any public pools, having any swimming pools installed on your property, participating in any sporting activities, purchasing a gas grill, or having vigorous sexual intercourse over the age of 45.


    Because it could save a life. Don’t worry, the cost of a CPR certification won’t go up just because the government is forcing you to have it in order to conduct the basic daily bullshit or exercise a constitutional right.


    Oh, better require it for any public speaking also. In case someone in the crowd gets hurt. And **** your rights, do CPR bitch.





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    Kar98

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    Don’t worry, the cost of a CPR certification won’t go up just because the government is forcing you to have it in order to conduct the basic daily bullshit or exercise a constitutional right.

    See, that would sadly be the other side of the coin. KNOWING first aid as prereq for a DL or LTC makes sense, but making it mandatory (unless a fixed maximum rate is set), would just drive up the cost and create more gov bureaucracy of which there is plenty.
    Example freely available student loans. Now cost of getting a degree has skyrocketed, and anything short of a bachelor's is nigh worthless.

    But that's why we're having a discussion, right? To weigh the pros and cons, not to all bay up the same tree in unison.
     

    toddnjoyce

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    Indeed, to be even able to START taking driving classes, you have to have proof of having passed a first aid class. And you are indeed supposed to have a standardized first aid kit, complete with nitrile gloves (the gloves became part of the standardized kit when AIDS became a thing, and people were using "ick, bug infested blood!" as excuse not to render first aid) in your car. And a reflective triangle so you don't get runned over.

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    That was the case in most, if not all EU member countries when I was assigned to Italy.

    Couldn’t get the car registered without showing the inspection station the warning triangle, working flashlight, and sealed EU-approved first aid kit.

    Break the wrapper and it had to be replaced before the next inspection.
     

    Kar98

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    Dunno about the wrapper. As long as all the bits and pieces were still there and in date, you were good. At least when I lived in Germany. Might be different now.
     

    Big Green

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    I read the title earlier in the day and thought it seemed kinda silly to keep allowing all these waivers and discounts if they want to make money. Then following that through to the logical end point I decided that perhaps that was the end goal. Have so many discounts and waivers on the fee that it becomes burdensome to even have the license and costly program associated with administering it and then you might as well scrap the whole program and allow people to carry without one.

    Well, it’s a nice thought anyway.
     

    TX OMFS

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    I don’t have an issue with giving those who are CPR certified a break on the license fees. I do have an issue with making more stuff mandatory before one can exercise a God given Constitutionally guaranteed right. Are we going to mandate that voters write a thousand word essay to prove they clearly understand the issues being voted upon?

    I do agree though, that this is a waste of political capital and time, but then the less those morons get done the less chances they have of screwing stuff up even more.
    I wouldn't mind the essay to vote.

    I refrained from voting in a local 4H Booster Club election this week bc I felt I didn't know enough about the candidates to make an informed choice. Imagine all the people who walk in a voting booth & know nothing of the candidates.

    ETA: We subtract 1000 Democrat votes for each episode of plagiarism. I can imagine essays being handed out while people board buses.

    NM, just outlaw Leftism.
     

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    It’s a positive incentive - a discount to encourage behavior. Much better than making it mandatory.

    If it was mandatory it might be like LTC classes were - prices dropped as more people became instructors, at least around here.

    AHA raised their rates quite a bit last year - it costs instructors $20 for each CPR card issued. There are some other certification companies that are cheaper. The cards for medical workers (nurses, EMT’s, firefighters) have remained relatively inexpensive at $7.
     
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