txinvestigator
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Show her the law? Ask for the law she says is enforceable. Tell her these dumbasses on TGT don't believe.
Failure to ID
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He knows you are correct. He cant admit it, so he changes his position from it is illegal, to it is not practical, implying something bad will happen, which in turn implies cops will behave badly when encountering a citizen who is breaking no laws.
Thanks. I guess I'll have to.
I can see the confusion, it's not the first time, it's son in law.
txinvestigator
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She probably lied
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Damn.....and all this time I thought it was Eric Swalwell's (D-CA) idea after proposing that private gun ownership rights should be revoked and ownership become a felony. Guess he's piggy-backing on the Chairman
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When the officer asked me for my name and DOB he entered that info into his onboard computer. A few seconds later my Photo popped up on his screen. That was enough proof for him to know who he was talking to. I guess agency's without sophisticated technology in their patrol cars could get snookered in an ID check.
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txinvestigator
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What does Terry have to do with Fail to ID in Texas? Hint: it doesn't.
Wrong again. The stop and the frisk are two separate events and require different justifications.
And it is relevant to failure to ID. In contrast to the wrong information you posted earlier, in Texas failure to ID laws only apply to persons once detained or arrested. If detained you don't have to ID but it is a crime to lie, and if arrested you are required to identify yourself
Well filled out a lot of Field Interogation Contact cards over the years. Commonly used to establish the identity of hairballs who look like potential alleged perps but not currently doing any crimes. Never had one refuse to cough up the info but suspect it would not go well for that person. Can’t believe our old law breaker chief insist we break the rules like that. He could have used your advice.
Back in "the day" people weren't as informed/aware of their Rights as we are now.........
that....and some local LEO's did what ever they thought they could get away with....which was actually quite a lot......not so much anymore........
that....and some local LEO's did what ever they thought they could get away with....which was actually quite a lot......not so much anymore........
I have mixed thoughts regarding compulsory ID-ing.
We don't live in WW11 Germany where the 'authorities' can demand your papers.
Example: I'm walking down the street and have broken no laws.
If I'm demanded to identify myself on the whim of L.E., I don't have to.
On the other hand, I'm sure a lot of folks who have warrants on them and are demanded to I.D. themselves and when they do, bang off to jail they go.
But, on the whole, this I 'must ID' myself when I've committed no crime pisses me off.........because some LE type demands I do so, just because he doesn't like the cut of my jib......so to speak.
And they can't simply enter my home without my permission either, just because they're L.E.
If they cook up some baloney to qualify stopping me and demanding I.D. or enter my home without my permission on some cooked excuse, I have the resources (lawyers) to legally defend myself against such heavy handed, over the top L.E. weight throwing around.
I'm 'pro-L.E.' but not when bogus excuses are used against law abiding citizens.
We don't live in WW11 Germany where the 'authorities' can demand your papers.
Example: I'm walking down the street and have broken no laws.
If I'm demanded to identify myself on the whim of L.E., I don't have to.
On the other hand, I'm sure a lot of folks who have warrants on them and are demanded to I.D. themselves and when they do, bang off to jail they go.
But, on the whole, this I 'must ID' myself when I've committed no crime pisses me off.........because some LE type demands I do so, just because he doesn't like the cut of my jib......so to speak.
And they can't simply enter my home without my permission either, just because they're L.E.
If they cook up some baloney to qualify stopping me and demanding I.D. or enter my home without my permission on some cooked excuse, I have the resources (lawyers) to legally defend myself against such heavy handed, over the top L.E. weight throwing around.
I'm 'pro-L.E.' but not when bogus excuses are used against law abiding citizens.
And today they are "ill informed" from the idiot box and internet. Which is worse?
Hear you on that. Seems like we have a much higher per capital ratio of jailhouse lawyers these days. They seem to be able to snag nonexistent civil rights out of thin air
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