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    That's a strange way to look at things.

    Why are children getting sexually abused by teachers, seems like the logical take away. You are quite the independent thinker!

    It’s also a very lacking statistic given that it offers no per capita numbers for abuse.

    Any sexual abuse is bad, but the phrasing you used lacks any real info in to the scope of the problem, assuming it’s accurate.


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    It’s also a very lacking statistic given that it offers no per capita numbers for abuse.

    Any sexual abuse is bad, but the phrasing you used lacks any real info in to the scope of the problem, assuming it’s accurate.


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    Good point. A small percentage of children will ever be in contact with a priest while the vast majority of children are in public schools. I wonder why the majority of public school sexual abuse cases go unreported?
     

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    Good point. A small percentage of children will ever be in contact with a priest while the vast majority of children are in public schools. I wonder why the majority of public school sexual abuse cases go unreported?

    If they are unreported, how do we know about them? Or do you mean reported to the school but not LE? In that case it would take further research to determine validity.


    I’m not trying to be a dick. I’m just very skeptical after years of hearing that 1 in 4 women are raped in college and other crazyness.


    I did a little checking and there are roughly 22 times as many children in public schools as there are in Catholic schools.

    There are roughly 10 times as many teachers in the US as there are Catholic priests.

    These numbers still lack the greater context of children sexually abused outside of either institution in order to determine if the institutions offer greater chances of wrongdoing than the general population. I don’t have the total number of victims for any of the environments listed so it would be impossible to make any real judgment against them outside of certain reporting issues that have come to light.

    I don’t want to wonder in to religious territory though. Just wanted to make a point about statistical information and how easily is can be skewed by excluding vital information. Even the information I posted isn’t all that helpful since it doesn’t account for students who attend both public schools AND Catholic Church. But the lack of information on abuse outside of the noted institutions is the biggest piece missing at this point.

    There are also major environmental variables, such as shitty dopehead parents that put their children in extremely high risk situations. It would be difficult to get all of that information together without some major resources. If you have a source for the statistic you posted I wouldn’t mind looking through it, assuming it offers more context.


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    I feel sexual abuse in public schools is something that needs to be addressed.

    You may see it as no big deal and only deserving a "little checking".

    The most recent study was done in 2004.
     

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    Children are 200 times more likely to be sexually abused by Teachers in public schools than Catholic Priests!
    Why would there be Catholic Priests in public schools?
    That's a strange way to look at things.
    Why are children getting sexually abused by teachers, seems like the logical take away. You are quite the independent thinker!
    Well, at least I got it Cam.
     

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    Considering funding of institutions where child abuse is rampant should be part of the discussion IMO.

    Define “rampant”. You still haven’t given a statistic or link to how often abuse actually occurs.


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    Good point. A small percentage of children will ever be in contact with a priest while the vast majority of children are in public schools. I wonder why the majority of public school sexual abuse cases go unreported?

    What am I missing, if it's unreported, how do you know it's happening?
     

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    I feel sexual abuse in public schools is something that needs to be addressed.

    You may see it as no big deal and only deserving a "little checking".

    The most recent study was done in 2004.


    I never said it shouldn’t be. Nor did I say it needed only “a little checking”.

    I said we should actually know the scope of the issue and not jump on a statistic of “20 times more likely” with no context. It’s a meaningless statistic on its own.


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    I never said it shouldn’t be. Nor did I say it needed only “a little checking”.

    I said we should actually know the scope of the issue and not jump on a statistic of “20 times more likely” with no context. It’s a meaningless statistic on its own.


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    What numbers did you see after your 'little checking'?
     

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    What numbers did you see after your 'little checking'?

    Nothing to give any actual context.

    What I found was even less helpful since you made no effort to site the source of your random number.

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    Younggun

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    I'm not sure I was put on this earth to be your Oracle. Google it.

    And I’m not here to prove your case for you. People who are as passionate about a subject as you seem to be will usually actually have something to support their opinions. Some kind of evidence to show that the issue is larger than what others believe it to be.

    Of course there are those who will post some random number as if it’s relevant and refuse to offer any other supporting evidence. Those people often don’t actually have any and are operating instead on some sort of bias or predetermined conclusion and are unwilling to risk finding that they are mistaken.


    I don’t know where you fall in that spectrum, but I’m going to assume that your unwillingness to provide any evidence is due to the lack of existence of such evidence. Otherwise I would have to assume the evidence is counter to your claim and you withhold it intentionally. I don’t think you would be so dishonest though.




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    Nothing to give any actual context.

    What I found was even less helpful since you made no effort to site the source of your random number.

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    So after your research you couldn't find the number of children sexually abused in public schools? Really.
     
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