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  • Younggun

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    I've led you to water youngun. If you want to live ignoring the problem that's on you. Millions of children have been sexually assaulted in public schools.

    There seems to be a growing number of people who think adults sexually assaulting children is not a problem, maybe you're in that camp.

    You didn’t lead anyone anywhere. You posted a number about kids being 20 times more likely in one situation than another but gave no citation for it. Since then you’ve provided no supporting evidence or links to supporting evidence. You just keep throwing out numbers without backing them up with any sort of data or even giving a timeline or geographical area. Just a number that I’m supposed to believe.

    And now because I don’t believe your random numbers with no citation or evidence you question whether I believe the sexual assault of a child is ok. It almost seems like you are trying to shame me in to accepting your “facts”. Are you going to call me racist as well?


    You want to be taken seriously, treat the subject seriously and support your assertions with citations and evidence. Otherwise your numbers mean nothing and your attempts at shaming are pitiful. I’ve had leftists calling me terrible names for years without caving. You’re no different. I operate on evidence, not emotion.



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    ian

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    I said
    So we have lots of reasons that support vouchers. Are there any reasons not implement a voucher system?

    You said

    I only saw one argument against them and I don’t even think that member was against them. Who are you trying to convince?

    I think you’ve gotten confused.


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    I think you got confused. I acknowledged support for the voucher system, then asked for any arguements against. Something wrong with that?
     

    ian

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    You didn’t lead anyone anywhere. You posted a number about kids being 20 times more likely in one situation than another but gave no citation for it. Since then you’ve provided no supporting evidence or links to supporting evidence. You just keep throwing out numbers without backing them up with any sort of data or even giving a timeline or geographical area. Just a number that I’m supposed to believe.

    And now because I don’t believe your random numbers with no citation or evidence you question whether I believe the sexual assault of a child is ok. It almost seems like you are trying to shame me in to accepting your “facts”. Are you going to call me racist as well?


    You want to be taken seriously, treat the subject seriously and support your assertions with citations and evidence. Otherwise your numbers mean nothing and your attempts at shaming are pitiful. I’ve had leftists calling me terrible names for years without caving. You’re no different. I operate on evidence, not emotion.



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    So you have people on the left and right calling you on your BS. Did it ever cross your mind that maybe it's you and not everyone else? No? You sure seem to be emotional.
     

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    Considering that it quotes the “20-25% of women in college are raped” statistic, which has been proven false, I will consider it a garbage site.


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    You ask for citation, get it, and then call it all garbage. Didn't see that coming.
     

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    So you have people on the left and right calling you on your BS. Did it ever cross your mind that maybe it's you and not everyone else? No? You sure seem to be emotional.

    Who are those people? What garbage am I being called out on?


    I haven’t made any assertions, I’ve only asked for evidence.


    Are you calling me out for wanting evidence?


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    You ask for citation, get it, and then call it all garbage. Didn't see that coming.

    Because it uses statistics that have been debunked many times over. The standard used for the 1/5 statistic includes considering a woman who has sex with someone willingly and regretting it the next morning as a rape victim.

    Here is a citation for my claim. And the article and video will also include citations for the source of the information they use so that you can verify it. Because that’s what you do when you have evidence to support a claim.
    https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/lena-dunham-1-in-4-women-raped-myth-debunked/


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    Considering that it quotes the “20-25% of women in college are raped” statistic, which has been proven false, I will consider it a garbage site.


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    Campus Sexual Assault
    • 20% - 25% of college women and 15% of college men are victims of forced sex during their time in college (b
    • More than 90% of sexual assault victims on college campuses do not report the assault
    The way I see it is 2% to 3% of college women REPORT being victims.
     

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    Campus Sexual Assault
    • 20% - 25% of college women and 15% of college men are victims of forced sex during their time in college (b
    • More than 90% of sexual assault victims on college campuses do not report the assault
    The way I see it is 2% to 3% of college women REPORT being victims.

    If they don't report the assault, how do we know how many don't report?

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    It’s in the way the survey was written. It asked a lot of questions about experiences, many of which don’t constitute rape at all. For example, the woman that sleeps with a guy and regrets it the next day. That’s not rape, but it was a question on the form.

    The last question on the form asked directly if they had been raped.

    They considered regretting sex to be rape, and when the respondent checked no to being raped they considered it an instance of “unreported rape”.

    Using that method they quickly ended up with a very large number of “rapes” by their broad definition and a very low number of “reported rapes”.


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    Because it uses statistics that have been debunked many times over. The standard used for the 1/5 statistic includes considering a woman who has sex with someone willingly and regretting it the next morning as a rape victim.

    Here is a citation for my claim. And the article and video will also include citations for the source of the information they use so that you can verify it. Because that’s what you do when you have evidence to support a claim.
    https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/lena-dunham-1-in-4-women-raped-myth-debunked/


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    You seem to be perfectly capable of getting the exact stats you choose to believe. I'll go with your figures. How many children are sexually abused in public schools? Is that number acceptable for you?

    If you can't find stats on sexual abuse of children in public schools, is that acceptable to you?
     

    Younggun

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    You seem to be perfectly capable of getting the exact stats you choose to believe. I'll go with your figures. How many children are sexually abused in public schools? Is that number acceptable for you?

    If you can't find stats on sexual abuse of children in public schools, is that acceptable to you?

    It’s not my job to make your case for you. Why is that so hard for you to comprehend.

    Cam posted a link and said he wasn’t sure if it was reliable. I happened to know that it wasn’t and was aware of a source to use as evidence because in order to know something I would have had to have had a source for the information leading to that knowledge.

    This allowed to me give Cam some evidence to support my claim that he shouldn’t believe in the false narrative that as many as a quarter of college women are being sexually assaulted.

    Do you see how that works. I made a claim, so I provided the evidence.

    It’s not about “what I choose to believe”. Many people are “choosing to believe” 1/5 women are sexually assaulted in college when it is proven to be false. No definition of sexual assault fits the criteria used in the survey unless you go to the very fringe of the leftist movement.


    Now it’s your turn. You need to provide evidence to support the claims you’ve made. Instead, you are trying to appeal to emotion by asking me to give a made up number and decide its acceptability.

    I will say this. You’ve made a claim and refuse to support it. That is unacceptable to me. You’ve attempted to shame me for not accepting your claims as fact. Also unacceptable to me.




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    Mowingmaniac 24/7

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    ian,

    Please, Sir or Madam, come right out and declare you're a leftist.......or not.

    Thanks!

    Why do I want to know your political stance?

    If you're a leftist, I will choose to 'ignore you' as it's easier on my BP.

    If on the other hand, you're simply 'gullible' ok, I'll read your posts.....for laughs!

    Thanks again!
     

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    It’s not my job to make your case for you. Why is that so hard for you to comprehend.

    Cam posted a link and said he wasn’t sure if it was reliable. I happened to know that it wasn’t and was aware of a source to use as evidence because in order to know something I would have had to have had a source for the information leading to that knowledge.

    This allowed to me give Cam some evidence to support my claim that he shouldn’t believe in the false narrative that as many as a quarter of college women are being sexually assaulted.

    Do you see how that works. I made a claim, so I provided the evidence.

    It’s not about “what I choose to believe”. Many people are “choosing to believe” 1/5 women are sexually assaulted in college when it is proven to be false. No definition of sexual assault fits the criteria used in the survey unless you go to the very fringe of the leftist movement.


    Now it’s your turn. You need to provide evidence to support the claims you’ve made. Instead, you are trying to appeal to emotion by asking me to give a made up number and decide its acceptability.

    I will say this. You’ve made a claim and refuse to support it. That is unacceptable to me. You’ve attempted to shame me for not accepting your claims as fact. Also unacceptable to me.




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    I understand you feel shame but that is no reason for me to support my case in a kangaroo court where you appointed yourself judge. You have no choice but to accept that.

    ZX's stats were based on 7 or 8 studies. you found one stat you didn't like (unrelated to what we were talking about) and called all the stats garbage. Irrational behavior.

    Not sure why you are being purposely obtuse. You know there are millions of children who are victims of sexual assault, you know there will be future victims yet you choose to turn your back on them because I made you emotional. Disgusting really.
     

    ian

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    ian,

    Please, Sir or Madam, come right out and declare you're a leftist.......or not.

    Thanks!

    Why do I want to know your political stance?

    If you're a leftist, I will choose to 'ignore you' as it's easier on my BP.

    If on the other hand, you're simply 'gullible' ok, I'll read your posts.....for laughs!

    Thanks again!

    Leftists stand up for child rapists. Leftists will shout down those who attempt to bring attention to their wicked child sex deeds.

    I stand against child rapists and those who support them.

    Which side are you on Maniac?
     

    Mowingmaniac 24/7

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    Aw Ian, when posts that state leftist phrases like: "You have no choice but to accept that"... I recognize them for their babbling lefty irrationality and 'pop' onto my 'ignore list' they go......oh what a relief it is!

    Adios!
     
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